Are you proud to be a SLAYER fan?

I seriously always wondered what bands like Slayer, Pantera, Metallica, etc think when they meet fans like that. The ones who honestly couldn't care less about the band itself, but only see the band and their shows as an outlet to smoke weed, mosh, and get into fights.......
 
Honestly, I've mentioned in the past about how many fans wouldn't want to know the truth about what kinds of egos and attitudes their favorite bands truly have. I think alot of these people would be pretty bummed to find out, lol.

I think the overall sentiment most bands have towards these overzealous fans is this-- It's flattering and appreciated that these fans support them so staunchly and they are grateful to have them, but at the same time, these fans aren't the kind of people that the band would generally consider to be the type of people they want to become personal and overly friendly with and hang out with them. Mostly because they just have different personalities and interests.

I wonder how many of these Slayer fans realise that the guys in Slayer don't think or behave anything like they (the fans) do? The guys in Slayer are very laid back and most have families and are very "normal".
 
Used to? Not anymore?
Just grew old of them, or did you not care for more recent releases?

After seeing a band that many times, it's hard to continue for me to get excited to see them live anymore. I also slowly lost my love for Slayer as Tom lost his early vocal style. Now he just screams every word in the same key, and it's disappointing. His voice on the first 5 CD's were amazing. Then, it sort of went away from the "darker" sound to the scream style.

Blah, I'm medicated, tired and rambling. haha
 
That precisely reflects my feelings towards Slayer now. I understand why Tom doesn't sing the way he used to 20+ years ago, but it just really changes the vibe and everything for me. When I hear "Antichrist" I want to hear it sung and played the way it used to be, because THAT is what made me love the tune. There are plenty of bands where the vocals aren't that important to me, and I can get past them and still enjoy the band regardless. But for me Tom's vocals were extremely important to the music and the whole vibe they gave off and that's just pretty much gone now.

 
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Well I'm not wanting to badmouth him in any way, I still admire the guy, but I definitely get the impression that Tom kinda goes through the motions these days and everything. When I saw Slayer a couple of years ago, he seemed half-interested and slightly bemused about the whole thing. It's a job now, and it's quite possible that he's largely grown out of this, in terms of his personal interest and drive and "being metal" and all that stuff. Hey as long as the guy is continuing to entertain people by and large and he's making money and supporting his family and whatnot, then I give him props. I just miss the Araya of old.
 
And Tom also used to actually play bass, instead of really fast open E's.

Hey, I started playing bass years ago, playing along to his open E basslines!!!! :lol: (Specifically South of Heaven)

Paul - Thanks for the explanation. Certainly valid.

I am sick of hearing people bash 80s thrash bands, saying stuff like, "They are dead to me, they had success, etc"
 
Well I'm not wanting to badmouth him in any way, I still admire the guy, but I definitely get the impression that Tom kinda goes through the motions these days and everything. When I saw Slayer a couple of years ago, he seemed half-interested and slightly bemused about the whole thing. It's a job now, and it's quite possible that he's largely grown out of this, in terms of his personal interest and drive and "being metal" and all that stuff.

I think a lot of guys unfortunately are in the same boat.
It's probably tough sometimes I would imagine to sing lyrics you wrote over 20 years ago, when you had a different perspective of the world.
 
I have that feeling now, actually. I can listen to things I wrote and played 10 or more years ago and I'm such a different person now, and even a different musician, that I know I wouldn't have done the same thing if I were writing that stuff now. I can only imagine how it is for a lyricist like Paul, or Tom, etc., because as you get older, your feelings and perspectives tend to change, and I am sure there's alot of ideaologies and things that they can't relate to anymore.

But as for Tom, I can understand him not being able to hit all those high screaming notes anymore, but he also ditched that kind of growly viciousness he once had too. Now, as Paul said, it's all that one-note-throughout shout vocal he does on EVERYTHING. I just don't get that. I guess it goes hand in hand with the one note he plays on bass these days as well :lol:
 
Honestly, I've mentioned in the past about how many fans wouldn't want to know the truth about what kinds of egos and attitudes their favorite bands truly have. I think alot of these people would be pretty bummed to find out, lol.

I think the overall sentiment most bands have towards these overzealous fans is this-- It's flattering and appreciated that these fans support them so staunchly and they are grateful to have them, but at the same time, these fans aren't the kind of people that the band would generally consider to be the type of people they want to become personal and overly friendly with and hang out with them. Mostly because they just have different personalities and interests.

I wonder how many of these Slayer fans realise that the guys in Slayer don't think or behave anything like they (the fans) do? The guys in Slayer are very laid back and most have families and are very "normal".

I'm not sure that the guys from Slayer, regardless of how normal they are (Tom Araya especially comes off as a pretty tame guy in interviews, practicing Catholic and all), disapprove of their crazy fans. Isn't the photo of the guy who carved Slayer onto both of his forearms on the Divine Intervention CD itself (as in the physical CD; I have it somewhere but I haven't seen it since I downloaded it onto iTunes many years ago).

That isn't a bad thing, of course; I just had the impression that Slayer was always one of those bands that got a big kick out of their own crazies.

And, at least, when I grew up the internet thing wasn't big until I got to college... it always was kind of neat, growing up in San Juan, Puerto Rico, running into another person with a Slayer shirt. It was like, FUCK YEAH, more people who listen to awesome music! And Slayer was, at least then, indisputably "metal" for us dumb youngins' who were desolated that Metallica and Megadeth had "sold out" (and we were too stupid to appreciate that Iron Maiden was perhaps the best metal band of all time). So I kinda feel a little warm fuzziness (not in my pants) for these kids being like SLAYER YEAH YOU KNOW SLAYER.

Aside from that, I enjoy quite a bit of Slayer's work up to Divine Intervention. Reign In Blood was their best, sure. My favorite piece that Slayer produced was the "Decade of Aggression" 2 CD live recording. That's the gold standard for all live metal album CDs, in my opinion. No metalhead should be without it!

And Tom also used to actually play bass, instead of really fast open E's.

I cried laughing at this, and I love Slayer and used to love playing it when I was learning bass as a teenager. =)

Hey, I started playing bass years ago, playing along to his open E basslines!!!! :lol: (Specifically South of Heaven)

lol so did I
 
I am sure there are thou$and$ if not million$ of reasons why SLAYER love their crazies!!!!!

Same reason as why I wear a collared shirt and dress pants to work most days. You have to pay the bills!

As long as you are doing something you do not despise.

I am sure all the guys in SLAYER like playing the music, even if they don't 100% agree with fan antics, lyrical content, artwork, etc.
 
I think Slayer are quite grateful for, and get a kick out of, their crazy fans!

My point is, I don't think the guys in Slayer would be quick to want to go out for a beer and spend an evening with most of them :lol: And while I suspect most of you guys here at the forum would know that (being intelligent folks that you are), alot of those obsessed crazy fans (like some of the ones in the clips above) I don't think fully understand that fact.
 
Larry,
So, to sum up.
What you are saying in a nicer way than I was is that Slayer wouldn't want to invite these guys to their houses, but would gladly take their $$$$$$!!!!
 
LOL well that's not QUITE what I'm saying!

I think Slayer are proud to have such rabid fans. But let's face it, some of those people are a bit odd, and I don't think most of us here would want to hang out with them, so I doubt Slayer would either!

As for the whole thing about wearing a Slayer shirt (or any cool metal band shirt) being something that signifies a mutual respect between fans (especially in the old days), I agree completely. Not sure that it quite means the same thing these days as it once did, when so many people wear t-shirts purely as a fashion statement and not because of them being a big fan of the band they're wearing.
 
A bit over a month back, I hit the local stop of the Virgin Black/Samael/Amorphis tour. At one end of the sidewalk, there was a cluster of us respectfully discussing Samael's history with Xy and Mas, joking around, even doing little skits. Down the other, a member of Amorphis was walking as fast as he could without running because a fan was saying something to the effect of "yeah man I missed you last time so I did a lot of fucking SPEED to keep myself awakethis time! And coke!" followed by a laugh that totally lent some truth to the story. The fact that the Finnish gent could only smile, nod, and mutter something about business on the bus didn't strike me as the least bit assholic. When the "OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG OH MY... YOU! YOU.ARE.MY.GOD!!! OMY!!!! LOLLLLZZZZZ" types hit, there generally isn't enough to justify/sustain a real conversation.

Hell, even as a fellow fan it can get awkward real fast. The New Jersey Metal and Hardcore fest went from three stages to two. The problem was that first day's schedule was pro-printed for the larger configuration. So they had these photocopied flyers that the crowd took within minutes. A cluster of later arrivals formed near the second stage, shivered their asses off, and wondered very loudly when Devin THE ALMIGHTY Townsend would hit the stage. My ex-wife was nearby and quickly started being driven nuts by the chatter. She pointed to Dev, suggested they go ask, and just generally STFU. The response was so indignant Lex gave up, walked over, and did it herself after exhcnaging pleasantries. The kids flipped out and almost wet themselves when she came back over. That was the extent of their interaction because well... what could she have possibly said in response really?
 
I don't get why people freak out so much with "celebrities" you know, people from bands and such. I find it easy to talk with them, same as anyone else. Easier, actually, as I feel as if we share something together... their music is a part of me.
 
I don't get why people freak out so much with "celebrities" you know, people from bands and such. I find it easy to talk with them, same as anyone else. Easier, actually, as I feel as if we share something together... their music is a part of me.

I get you Ozzloaf. Most band members are easy to have a chat with because as larry has stated most of the time fans they meet just go "you guys are fucking OMG genius and shit" and never say anything they can respond to, I mean they dont go "yeah I know I'm your god, cool", they just do "thanks man" or just smile and say "cool". So when A guy like you has the nerve to actually TALK to them they find it comforting

Btw Im a proud slayer fan although dont care much for latest releases they still kick ass live. Saw them two years ago in Caracas and i was blown away. Shame some A-hole audience started throwing empty water bottles at the band and Tom got pissed and after the show all he said "gracias por su basura" which is spanish for "thanks for your trash" and they are most likely never coming back to venezuela. So glad I didnt miss that show. Dudes in that War at the warfield Doc. are morons, and the band is obviously proud of moron fans because they would have real music appreciating fans instead of those guys in the official release that dvd is. Then they get mad those same morons from another country throw them bottles.
 
Well, when I first got into Metal it made me "cool." There I was a dork dragged into the folk choir by his mom at a young age because she couldn't afford a babysitter and he was there anyhow. This music all about the exact opposite of everything I "had" to sing about man... it made me a badass! And if I could vicariously be awesome by listening then the people who made it had to be even cooler!!!! Then I hit my first Metal show, met my hero, noticed a strange odor, beheld his kitty tattoo, and had him run off to go call his girlfriend in the middle of things.
So I totally get the "severe reverance" thing as a step in the evolution of fandom. What confuses me is how some people never step beyond that, especially now. These "Gods" often have blogs about their dogs or prove their points on discussion forums through imbedded Youtube links to Rhapsody videos.
 
Well, when I first got into Metal it made me "cool." There I was a dork dragged into the folk choir by his mom at a young age because she couldn't afford a babysitter and he was there anyhow. This music all about the exact opposite of everything I "had" to sing about man... it made me a badass! And if I could vicariously be awesome by listening then the people who made it had to be even cooler!!!! Then I hit my first Metal show, met my hero, noticed a strange odor, beheld his kitty tattoo, and had him run off to go call his girlfriend in the middle of things.
So I totally get the "severe reverance" thing as a step in the evolution of fandom. What confuses me is how some people never step beyond that, especially now. These "Gods" often have blogs about their dogs or prove their points on discussion forums through imbedded Youtube links to Rhapsody videos.

Haha, that's fuuny you mention being a "dork in the folk choir". I was in a traveling choir in college, which was actually really cool, because it helped me learn more about theory, harmonies, etc. For our shows, I would be singing some German folk song or something from Broadway, but on the bus I'd be blasting Metallica, the Scorps or Ozzy on my "Walkman". :heh: