Axe-Fx II VS Axe-Fx Ultra

I think this is the 5th thread I read this week that Jeff and Clark argue.
Love this "swagger" kind of topics, so funny!
(why I feel that Clark can't match some opinions?)















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Hated the AXEFX II Recto tone on this one, though the Ultra its avarage for metal.
I prefered some matched EQ Clark done, even with the crazy popping frequency.
I think the best tone from clark was one video he made with a Orange amp, not that Sneapy sound, but I really liked.

Didn't understand all this talking about Clark eating someone shit or sending someone to eat poop (revealing its secrets :confused: )

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Thanks for sharing this! Although, I wouldn't buy any AXE FX for its modeling.
I prefer the KEMPER
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EDIT: I loved the "windows" theme, would you mind sharing the DIs?
Cheers!
 
@Clark: When you say you post this stuff on other forums and this is the one you have trouble on, is it maybe because this is an audio engineering forum? People here are going to scrutinize the fuck out of stuff. People on here generally know what the fuck they are talking about moreso compared to some douchebags on a guitar amp forum or an AxeFx forum when it comes to audio. So cry me a fucking river that you have a hard time on here. You should. If you don't want someone to give you an honest, educated, experienced response, don't post it here and then cry when you get raped by people that are showing you your mistakes. There is no "ego" problem. There is a you being silly problem.

What you did, is pointless. Well, I take that back. It shows exactly how you shouldn't do a comparison.
 
:D This is entertaning even for myself. Believe me 006, this is not the only forum on internet where people know stuff about audio engineering. And I don't automatically count people into that category. I'm not sure I would count you in that category. It's funny how even the creator of both Axe-Fx and Axe-Fx II and professional engineers on Gearslutz that actually make records that people listen to are able to listen to this comparison and state their opinions without shedding one tear, but on this forum it's like all the metal people suddenly have their period.

Yes, insult everyone on the forum, that is clearly the best way to proceed.
 
:D This is entertaning even for myself. Believe me 006, this is not the only forum on internet where people know stuff about audio engineering. And I don't automatically count people into that category. I'm not sure I would count you in that category. It's funny how even the creator of both Axe-Fx and Axe-Fx II and professional engineers on Gearslutz that actually make records that people listen to are able to listen to this comparison and state their opinions without shedding one tear, but on this forum it's like all the metal people suddenly have their period.

I didn't say it's the only place. But I have yet to find another place that had as many people that didn't talk out of their ass with misinformation. Speaking of which, Gearslutz is full of people that talk out of their ass. I got banned from there for posting the same mix twice for comparison, saying one was done with analog gear and the other ITB, and magically one got voted on more as being the "analog" one. Somehow tons of users "that actually make records that people listen to" heard more "analog warmth" and "richness" in one of the mixes. Even though they were the same mix, both in the box with all digital software. I trolled them hard, and proved a point, and they couldn't take it. I'm not saying they're all full of it, but it was quite interesting the majority heard analog qualities where there were none.

I don't really care if you count me one way or the other. I've got work released on Willowtip and Relapse records, I don't need your verification to show that I know anything about audio engineering. What have you done?

I don't know how you equate people pointing out the problems with your comparison with shedding tears or menstruating, but whatever. Your comparison is heavily flawed. Even after agreeing that it's flawed, you want to take it as evidence of one unit being "better" than another. You make no sense. Given that and your obsession with match EQ, I wouldn't count you in a category of knowing anything about audio engineering either.
 
Speaking of which, Gearslutz is full of people that talk out of their ass. I got banned from there for posting the same mix twice for comparison, saying one was done with analog gear and the other ITB, and magically one got voted on more as being the "analog" one. Somehow tons of users "that actually make records that people listen to" heard more "analog warmth" and "richness" in one of the mixes. Even though they were the same mix, both in the box with all digital software. I trolled them hard, and proved a point, and they couldn't take it. I'm not saying they're all full of it, but it was quite interesting the majority heard analog qualities where there were none.

This is more or less the power of suggestion. I have seen video's of people looking up into trees pointing out snakes that weren't really there. After time, those people thought they could actually see the snake.

People will see and hear what they want to, I am betting your same trick could be applied to this forum with the same results. Did they really ban you for doing this test? If so that's wrong.
 
Yes they did and deleted my thread, it was a couple of years ago. I'm guessing one of the admins was embarrassed when I revealed that they were the same mix with no changes between them other than file name.
 
Clark Kent said:
1) I never said if I preferred either of these units, you made that assumption.

No. It was my assumption that your comparison is completely flawed and was pointless to post.

Clark Kent said:
2) I never said I'm an audio engineer who belongs to any category at all

So where do you get off saying one person/a group isn't an audio engineer?

Clark Kent said:
3) About agreeing that it's flawed. I am not agreeing, when I am the one who states it in the first post.

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3) About agreeing that it's flawed. I am not agreeing, when I am the one who states it in the first post. F.ex. if I take a shit in the woods and tell people: it smells like shit in here. JeffTD: -"It smells like shit in the woods" ... it deserves one of these:

There has got to be some kind of language barrier because that's not at all what I was saying.

You said "these are different, and the Ultra is way better!"

I said "These are different, and you can't make a conclusion like that BECAUSE they are different."
 
You're doing some serious mental gymnastics to put up a fight on this one.

Anyways for me the Fender and Marshall sound pretty much identical but with more drive. The Rectifier however really surprised me... Ultra sounds like a real amp in that clip but Axe-II kind of doesn't.

This = you saying the Ultra is better.

To me... the modeling sounds 100% the same on the Fender and Marshall but Ultra wins the metal section in this comparison. It doesn't mean you'll get better tones with the Ultra, another model in the Axe-II might be better for this comparison.

This = you saying the ultra is better and then also admitting that this competition doesn't exactly prove that Ultra > II.
 
The fact that you keep responding and feel the need to tell us about your PM circlejerk is proof that you, if no one else, cares what we have to say. I hijacked nothing - you blew up because you can't accept the fact that you presented a flawed study and made conclusions based off that.