Ayeka - explain yourself young man!!

[Erik]

being born Jewish doesn't make you a Jew, any more than being born to Republican parents makes you a Republican. Most of the folks I know, who were born Jewish, now consider themselves either Atheist or Agnostic.

I dunno if someone else has pointed this out already but the jews are a race and their religion is judaism. You can be a jewish atheist.

 

[JayKeeley]

Ok, here's how it works...Europe is (largely) white. Judaism/Christianity/Islam, specifically Christianity...is not. Doesn't come from these lands, got nothing to do with us.

OK you make more sense now. You're referring to the roots of Christianity - seeing as 'Jesus' was a Jew and Israelite, and I assume so were his followers.

Excuse the ignorance, but when Christians invaded the European territories, where did they originate from? By your definition, were they already "white" by this point or were they still semites?

Funny how most Christians see Jesus as someone with blonde hair and blue eyes. If he truly even existed, he would have looked much more middle-eastern, no?

 

[Erik]

Sorath, you bring up a good issue, back to the hypocrisy of religion. Generally speaking yes, it appears most Muslims actually practice what they preach, unlike Christianity.

Which is why I hold the Catholic church in slightly higher regard than the Protestant: at LEAST they hold on to their principles and beliefs, no matter how fucking in(s)ane they are. I mean, when the bible basically says "homosexuals should be killed" and the Protestant church elect a homosexual bishop and still call themselves Christians, something is severely wrong.

 

[Erik]

Funny how most Christians see Jesus as someone with blonde hair and blue eyes. If he truly even existed, he would have looked much more middle-eastern, no?

Yes, that's pretty fucking dumb. Of course, when Christians invaded Germanic lands they probably changed the perceived image of Jesus so the Germanic people would be able to identify more with him/worship him, in the same way that they embraced and raped Heathen traditions such as "Christmas" etc.

 

[NAD]

Yes but on the other hand the Catholic church allows pedophilia and the Vatican worships the almighty dollar. They've just retained the fancy hats is all, the only reason they have not progressed much is because they are extremely slow. They are usually around 50 years behind the times it seems, I'm sure condoms will be ok'd in 2068.

 

[NAD]

Jesus had a big ol' afro, used to walk around saying "gimme a cheeseburger and french fries I'm the son of GOD goddammit!"

 

[Ayeka]

Also, media among other things (*cough* american govenment) is jewish-run. I hope you won't force me to prove it because that'd be too much work for little me and I don't really care if I convince you or not.

http://www.stormfront.org/jewish/whorules.html

 

[Hell Mike]

Probably 'cause muslims didn't invade your country and destroy your culture 1000 years ago.

They have just begun, and we probably should do something against it while we can.
True, not much remains but I don't want things getting worse than they are.

Sorath, you bring up a good issue, back to the hypocrisy of religion. Generally speaking yes, it appears most Muslims actually practice what they preach, unlike Christianity. The hypocrisy of religious zealots is what bothers me so much, not what they believe in (although mindless devotion to a deity you can't prove exists is sorta silly too ).

The American government is most certainly controlled (at least in part) by Jews. Why else would Israel be the ONLY country on the planet that receives carte blanche US funding every year? Granted, we want their intelligence in the region (especially with Bushy's Middle East stomp-a-thon), but if that were the sole reason we would give unquestioned funding to Taiwan, England, etc.

True that.

And to what Erik said about catholics vs. protestants, we discussed just that in school today and I agree.
Fundamentalists at least stick to the point, I can't see how one could call oneself chrisian yet disregard almost entirely from the bible's words.

 

[NAD]

But the logic of the Bible is inherently flawed, and one cannot truly follow it because they would become a walking contradiction. Besides, a Fundamentalist by today's standards would have been seen as extremely liberal 200 years ago. More fucking hypocrisy, drives me batty, batty I say!

"Technically Marge, we're not even supposed to go the bathroom."
--Rev. Lovejoy, on the logic of the Bible

 

[Hell Mike]

As far as I know, pedophilia isn't outlawed by the bible, please correct me if I'm wrong.
If homosxuality is to be accepted, then necrophilia, pedophilia and so on should be too if you ask me. The difference being that necrophilia and pedophilia is funny.

 

[Erik]

Yes but on the other hand the Catholic church allows pedophilia and the Vatican worships the almighty dollar.

I'm not saying I don't fucking hate the Catholic church. Wanna see something pretty infuriating?

http://www.sciscoop.com/story/2003/10/9/2415/10382

 

[NAD]

Yer sick.

The ban on homosexuality is loose at best, the passage could be interpretted a few different ways. Not to mention the fact that the Bible as we know it is the King James version, and you cannot tell me that that wasn't prettied up for the masses, and I'm sure that much was lost in the translation anyway.

 

[Hell Mike]

But the logic of the Bible is inherently flawed, and one cannot truly follow it because they would become a walking contradiction. Besides, a Fundamentalist by today's standards would have been seen as extremely liberal 200 years ago. More fucking hypocrisy, drives me batty, batty I say!

"Technically Marge, we're not even supposed to go the bathroom."
--Rev. Lovejoy, on the logic of the Bible

Indeed, but noone has said the bible should be followed at all. True, not ALL the views expressed therein, not even christians could write that a serious book consisting of only stupidity.

I would like to read (and be able to understand) the bible in hebrew.

 

[Ayeka]

Excuse the ignorance, but when Christians invaded the European territories, where did they originate from? By your definition, were they already "white" by this point or were they still semites?

I'd have to do a bit of research into that. Sadly, I do not know the very first incursion of Christianity into Europe...I do believe that the missionairies/priests who brought down the Romam Empire (or at least helped it anyway) and converted tribal cheifs over the continent were brainwashed whites and not semites, though I'd have to do a bit of racial profiling in each case to check. That could be a job for the weekend

 

[Erik]

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

I don't see how the fuck that can be interpreted in any other way than "if you have sex with another man, you both are to be killed, no questions asked."

 

[NAD]

Constantine allowed Christianity into the Roman Empire, somewhere around 500 AD I believe... the first traces of Christian art are dated a few hundred years before that from what I remember.

Been some years since I studied that, someone please correct me if I'm off.

 

[Hell Mike]

Since christianity originated in non-white lands and with non-white people, that's where it all comes from. So what if whites helped spreading the plague, they in turn were still brainwashed by those people.

 

[JayKeeley]

Sorath, you bring up a good issue, back to the hypocrisy of religion. Generally speaking yes, it appears most Muslims actually practice what they preach, unlike Christianity. The hypocrisy of religious zealots is what bothers me so much, not what they believe in (although mindless devotion to a deity you can't prove exists is sorta silly too ).

Islam deserves as little respect as any other religion. The only reason why most Christians practice their religion more loosely now is because it's values have dissipated over the years. Islam is forced down your throat, people worship it blindly through fear, and to break away causes outburst. It's even entwined within the culture where the traditions are now based on religous morals and rulings.

Just like pre-Christian Europe, the people of those Eastern lands were great and intelligent people, with strong values and beliefs, world travellers and traders (often trading with North Europeans by the way), scientists, farmers etc. The invasion of Islam (which means "submit" by the way) destroyed as much as Christianity.

Muslims do not even comprehend aetheism (or even darwinism) particularly because you are dealing with something quite primitive in nature. The religion is still so young (comparitively) that the zealots still run rampant. Islam is today where Christianity was in the Dark Ages. Where you had the church ruling the land over 'here', you have Islamic governments instilling fear and lies over 'there'.

The American government is most certainly controlled (at least in part) by Jews. Why else would Israel be the ONLY country on the planet that receives carte blanche US funding every year? Granted, we want their intelligence in the region (especially with Bushy's Middle East stomp-a-thon), but if that were the sole reason we would give unquestioned funding to Taiwan, England, etc.

It's funny how we talk about countries like Afghanistan being brainwashed by the Taliban through removal of all television and radio etc etc. For sure that is true. But I'm not sure how America is any less brainwashed through doing the exact opposite - enforcing propaganda through everyones television sets, and people actually believing what they hear, and flying fucking flags out of their car windows.

 

[NAD]

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

I don't see how the fuck that can be interpreted in any other way than "if you have sex with another man, you both are to be killed, no questions asked."

Heh, I obviously remembered the passage differently, but regardless, that is from the King James version. The original probably really translates to "Don't lie down with another man unless you're both tired and gay."

 

[Hell Mike]

Islam deserves as little respect as any other religion. The only reason why most Christians practice their religion more loosely now is because it's values have dissipated over the years. Islam is forced down your throat, people worship it blindly through fear, and to break away causes outburst. It's even entwined within the culture where the traditions are now based on religous morals and ruling.

True, but christianity destroyed what was HERE and what I feel a strong relationship with. Of course I care mor for me and what is/was/should have been mine than I do for others.