Bassguitar!!

Yes you can tell. It takes a while, but you can tell. If you hear and play basses with similar and different woods, you can learn to tell the difference. If you have a good ear, you can even tell what bass, and even an amp (though that's tougher), someone is using a recording

I, too, initially thought that the electronics (pickups and amps) were everything, but once I started researching and experimenting with good equipment, I realized I was wrong. Think about it this way: the sound originates from the strings/bass/wood and is amplified via the electronics. While the pickups, amps, and cabinets do color the sound, they can't add something that's not there. If that were the case, then shit, I'd just built myself a million basses out of cheap wood, slap on some good pickups, and play it through my Mesa rig and call it a great bass. But that's not how it works. In fact, it's far from it.

One of the easiest, most differentiable tones, IMO, lie in the fretboard wood. If you get a chance, play a bass with a rosewood board. Then right after that, play one, preferably a similar bass, with maple. Unless your amp really really sucks, you should be able to tell that the rosewood is warmer, while the maple has more attack/bite. Sure, you can boost the high mids around 1.2-3kHz on your amp EQ to get the rosewood board some more attack, but it's still not going to sound exactly like the maple. Amps are great for shaping your tone, especially cutting unwanted frequencies and adding a bit more color/flavor to the tone of the bass, but when it comes to boosting frequencies that aren't there in the bass to begin with, you're not going to get very far. I didn't realize how much of a difference woods made until I tried several basses in a row with pretty much the same electronics played through the same amp.

The best way to tell how the different components sound, set your onboard control knobs on the bass to flat, as well as the settings on the amp to flat (every thing in the neutral position). Now plug in a bass and play it. Then try a different bass. You should be able to tell a difference, especially if they are different. You may be thinking "well what's the point, i have EQ, so I'll use it." Well just because you have something, doesn't mean you have to use it. Sure, if you need to shape your tone, you will, but here's how it really matters: the combination of woods AND pickups (you can't leave them out of the equation) will get you closer to your intended goals. Use the knobs on you bass and/or amp to fine tune it. The way I look at it, the less EQ I have to use on my amp, the better. I want my instruments to sound good from the get go. If they don't, what's the point? I don't want to sit around and spend time getting my tone to sound right. I just want to plug it in get my sound asap, and spend more time playing.

Still skeptical?

To give you a more mainstream scenario, take any bass you want, and pair it with any amp/cab/combo you want, and try to get Flea's tone on, say, "Give it Away" on Blood Sugar Sex Magik. I guarantee you that without the Wal he used on the recording, you'll never get there. Some tones are easier to copy than others, but how close you get to what you want depends on what kind of tools you have.

You probably still don't believe me, but trust me on this one. Once you've played/heard a variety of instruments, you'll figure it out. Plus, I guarantee you that all those virtuoso bass players who get custom made basses with particular woods, or all the different luthiers who make high end basses with different woods don't do it just for shits and giggles! (Well maybe some who want furniture-esque instruments and can afford them) ;)
 
hey that is pretty interesting! it makes sense, even to me =)
I'm gonna try that out. I have two different second-hand basses and a little amp; now I'm trying to hear out all those details you just described :)
 
:lol:
but looking at prices for various device, I assume it's probably cheaper in the end to buy two basses and take the favoured parts of each to one new instrument together :goggly:


excuse my silliness, it's just that it's been ages that I held my bass in hands, and played on it :loco:
 
The problem I have with that is that I wouldn't want to combine two different sounds. I'd rather have one bass dedicated to delivering gut kicking, bowl desmembering ,aggressive tones, and another totally seperate one for smoother, jazzier, mellow tones. Combining them into, although being convenient and badass, would sacrifice the extremities of the different tonalities, i.e. it would be a happy medium, whereas I personally want two extremes, if that makes sense.

Gotta go, running late for class.
 
While you're at it, you seem to be somewhat of a sound technician whiz..so maybe you can help me. :) I'd like to reduce the hum my guitar has while using the distorted channel on my amp. I've tried upgrading amps and upgrading pickups. I'm not sure what else to do, besides get a new guitar..and I'm not really interested in doing that at the moment.
 
Is the hum only in the distorted channel, when you step on a pedal, or there all the time? From your post, I'm guessing it's only the case when you use the dist. channel on the amp, and since you're a metalhead, I'm also assuming you have a guitar with humbuckers, so I'll base my few suggestions on these premises.

First things first, try to isolate the problem, meaning find out whether the hum is coming from the guitar, the amp, or cords/cables/power outlet.

1. Try to use power outlets/sockets that are grounded (or earthed, for you Europeans) as much as possible.

2. Plug the guitar into the amp (guitar-->amp, no effects or extra cables, just the one between the axe and the amp) while on the dist. channel. Max out the volume knob on the guitar, don't play anything, and listen to the speakers. (You probably want to put the guitar down to avoid accidentally hitting notes and hurting your ears.) Now turn the guitar volume knob down all the way and see if the humming is still there. If it is, then your guitar is probably not to blame. If it's the amp, which is possible, then there just a few options: make sure everything is grounded, try playing in a different room, or sell the fucker and get a better one! ;)

3. Try to straighten out all your cables and prevent them from getting tangled up in each other. I've noticed that sometimes when cables (espeically older/shittier ones) are even partially coiled, they start pickup up interference. If you have more than one cable, swap them out and see if any of them pick anything up. Then add your effects or whatever into the chain to see if any of those add the humming.

4. If all else fails, check the control cavities in your guitar and make sure they are properly shielded. Most tend to be lined with conductive paint (atleast the ones I've bothered to look inside). If you don't have any conductive paint, you could try "plating" the cavities with aluminum foil and see if that makes a difference. Be sure that none of the foil touches the metal contacts of the electronics. I don't know if this causes a problem for sure, but I'd rather play it safe and try to keep any metal parts suspended in air or cushioned between the plastic covered wiring.

5. And if none of that works, you could get a noise suppressor/reduction unit.

Also, if possible, try playing in different rooms. The high gain from the distortion channel could be picking up electric/magnetic/radio/tv signals. One of my distortion pedals paired with a shitty cable would pick up the radio in some rooms.

Also, see if the humming is there when you have a blend of both pickups activated. If they are humbuckers, it shouldn't matter, but hey, it's still worth a shot.

And if none of these tricks work, then I'm afraid you may be SOL. Well there is one solution: play loud enough to drown out the hum. :grin: :rock:

That's about all I can really think of at the moment. I probably repeated a lot of the stuff, but whatever. Hope it helped.
 
Haha, if I don't find a problem with all that to work with, I might have to hurt myself. :)