Ben Stien "Expelled"
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egan.
daylightdies.com
Wow. It got an 8% average rating on Rotten Tomatoes (they take reviews from all over the country and create a cumulative average). That is among the worst I've ever seen.
smy1
Member
egan: wow, that is really bad. Then again, all the RT 100% movies I watched so far have disappointed me ... 
The rating doesn't surprise me. Do a movie on something that everyone knows and present a different idea/ call into question and it's bound to have a bad reaction.
I'm still digesting it a little.
I'm still digesting it a little.
while your at it, take a bite of the following:
Ben Stein's Expelled: No Integrity Displayed
Six things in Expelled that Ben Stein doesn't want you to know...
STINNETT
Bad / Nationwide
Yes, to anybody who got anything at all out of this movie - please check out James' links.
This movie is terribly dishonest and just plain pathetic.
This movie is terribly dishonest and just plain pathetic.
Glenn Fricker
Very Metal &Very Bad News
And while you're at it, pick up a bag of fortune cookies & plan out the rest of your life.
Will do.I don't have an issue with the movie and like any Michael Moore (although Mike is a bigger jackass) style film take it with a huge grain of salt. I also read the 2 links James gave.
What was interesting (and I did not know this) was that there were scientist being interviewed who where saying "yes ID is plausible" that were also saying "has nothing to do with creationism". Although didn't elaborate enough.
As far as getting or not getting anything out of the movie. Eh it's just a movie
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Oh and if you gents would be so kind as to not succumb to calling me a moron for watching a movie and posting my reaction that would be good (if this thread goes anywhere).
grywolf627
Member
well just go right ahead and suck all the fun out of life then.
Well you could just go over to HCAF. They love diminishing conversation down to "you are a retard" etc.
I"m too retarded to know what HCAF is
Well you could just go over to HCAF. They love diminishing conversation down to "you are a retard" etc.
but i'll pass all the same
spioraid
Fancy a pint? Or two?
Is there any negative name calling we can do? I mean I just wanna play by the rules here as to being rude. Just so you know.
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I suppose I should since I'll be meeting the producer come next year. Perks of being an indie film maker and all
No fame but all the connections.
Uladyne
Greg
For how apparently intelligent Ben Stein is, he sure is an idiot. I haven't seen the movie yet, but from what I've read they edited Richard Dawkins' interview to make it look like he didn't know what he was talking about. The producer only obtained Dawkin's participation by lying about the flim's title and subject material. It's propaganda meant to confuse people by inventing a false conspiracy. Shady indeed.
TravisW
Member
So it's a Michael Moore movie?
Seriously, propaganda is propaganda from either side of any issue.
Uladyne
Greg
I'm not very familiar with Michael Moore's stuff other than Sicko so I can't really comment. All I know is a ton of people hate him. Sicko was pretty interesting, but I don't know much about the subject matter to make an informed statement. I do know that I won't be visiting a doctor for anything that isn't life threatening. I didn't need to watch Sicko to reach that frame of mind though. Past doctor bills for small trivial visits are enough of a deterrent to keep me away.
STINNETT
Bad / Nationwide
But with the issue of ID (creationism-lite) versus evolution, there is only one side which has to twist the facts, manipulate people, and lie through their teeth in order to gain any ground.
Denying evolution in favor of ID is like denying gravity in favor of the idea that Jesus is pushing us down. Sure, you can believe that if it makes you feel better - but why insist that the idea is just as legitimate and should be taught to our future scientists? My question is, what will science do with that information? What progress will it inspire?
Evolution is proven out every day in laboratories all over the world. Several successful and important fields of study are absolutely dependant on its being true. In other words, the acceptance of evolution is getting us somewhere. It's fueling discovery. That the acceptance of ID over evolution would lead to no such advancement seems to prove that it's not science. What more is there to this argument?
TravisW
Member
But with the issue of ID (creationism-lite) versus evolution, there is only one side which has to twist the facts, manipulate people, and lie through their teeth in order to gain any ground.
Denying evolution in favor of ID is like denying gravity in favor of the idea that Jesus is pushing us down. Sure, you can believe that if it makes you feel better - but why insist that the idea is just as legitimate and should be taught to our future scientists? My question is, what will science do with that information? What progress will it inspire?
Evolution is proven out every day in laboratories all over the world. Several successful and important fields of study are absolutely dependant on its being true. In other words, the acceptance of evolution is getting us somewhere. It's fueling discovery. That the acceptance of ID over evolution would lead to no such advancement seems to prove that it's not science. What more is there to this argument?
Regardless, a person could still make a pro-evolution propaganda film that contains heaps of untruths. Propaganda isn't about truth, it's about persuasion.
