best sounding expansion for superior drummer?

drew_drummer said:
I've not used it but I'm told the Custom & Vintage pack has really nice stuff for metal.
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Clips on toontrack website do sounds good too !
I'm more after natural/organics drums tones rather than modern ultra polished ones, so i'ts really hard to decide between this one and Music City USA.

Anyone using both ?!

EDIT : C&V is an old library that they updatetd / redid after, and I like the fact it's done the "old" way (like the 1st DFHs/Superior Drummer 1.0), with lots of kit options (6 kicks, 20 snares, 6 sets of toms, 7 hats...etc)
That's way way more than the more recent libraries !
 
He's Dead said:
No, you'll have to use an external trigger. I've heard apTrigga is good, and your DAW may have something that works for you. I'm in Reaper, and I use a 3rd party JS plugin called DrumReaplacer that works fantastically and is free. Unfortunately, it doesn't work with anything other than Reaper.
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One problem I'm thinking with using snare/kick samples is you won't get the 'room mic' sounds etc that the superior drums have

Is this an issue or not?!?! any work around?

I wanted to use some SSD kick and snares mixed in with superior
 
batcave1 said:
One problem I'm thinking with using snare/kick samples is you won't get the 'room mic' sounds etc that the superior drums have

Is this an issue or not?!?! any work around?

I wanted to use some SSD kick and snares mixed in with superior
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Yeah, but (1) you shouldn't really be using much room sound in metal, (2) the room sound is so washed out that if you just boost it a little to compensate for the added volume of the new blended samples it should sound fine, and (3) you can always send the bus with the multi-blended snare/kick/whatever to a new reverb or artificial room sound bus.
 
you can still buy evil drums if you look around. well worth paying the extra for shipping on, incredible library from an incredible engineer in 2 great studios (one is sound city which has shut down now).

C&V is fucking incredible too, but I wouldn't recommend it in the slightest for metal. For pop and light rock genres its really fantastic, VERY realistic, lots of drum choices/styles and great sounding. Its too quirky to use for metal/hard rock IMO.

I really love the classic EZX and indie folk, but again I wouldnt recommend them for heavy stuff.

Evil drums really is the way forward, between that, avatar and metal machine you will be sweet.

FWIW, this is the kind of I have used C&V for:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_i3mh-r4Sw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_i3mh-r4Sw[/ame]

(sorry for the gayish music)
 
Thanks for your feedback !
The drums in your vid sounds good.

Do you know some place in Europe that are still selling Evil Drums ?
The few ones I found are only in the US, and there's only one of them that ships to Europe.
 
It is a real shame Evil Drums is discontinued for S2, I really like the stuff in that pack and there are some awesome fat kicks for rock music IMO.

Rail, the guy behind Platinum Samples, is outstanding for customer service. I received Evil Drums as a Christmas present a few years ago.

I tried installing it on Dec 26th (boxing day) and one of the discs had an error. Within hours of asking for help Rail had uploaded the necessary files, given me the links, AND then also posted me replacement DVDs, no cost, and I'm in the UK and IIRC the discs came international and with fast shipping.

The speed and quality of customer service during a holiday period was awesome.
 
TRUIE said:
Thanks for your feedback !
The drums in your vid sounds good.

Do you know some place in Europe that are still selling Evil Drums ?
The few ones I found are only in the US, and there's only one of them that ships to Europe.
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I had to order it from america. honestly, even paying all the BS with shipping, its worth it.

not many people will have it unless they go the BFD route, and its a great sounding pack. ridiculous amount of velocity layers and all that, sounds killer.

MIDI pack that comes with it aint great though, although the other platinum midi sample packs are top. just a bit pricey.
 
OK thank you, that's what I thought.
The cool side of this is that it's a "rare" product and you're not used to hear it on every production, like the Avatar library :lol:
 
maskedman72 said:
anyone have dirks midi packs? how are they?
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I do. Depends on the type of music you're doing. For me, they are generally far too involved. There isn't much breathing room. I like beats with more groove in them. But if that's your thing, I'm sure they'll be great for what you're doing.

I'm a whore, I have to collect as much as possible.
 
My current setup consists of everything expect for the kick as Avatar. The kick is from Metal Machine. I really like everything about Avatar, especially the snares. That Nir-Z Custom sounds ridiculous (in a good way)!
 
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