BIG Iced Earth (bad) news!

Icarus

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Matt has left the band!!!!! :cry:

Just read it on the offical site :(

This is what Matt had to say....

In December of last year, prior to Iced Earth signing a new record deal,
Jon and I had a sit-down concerning what I felt was best for my future and the
future of Iced Earth. I told him that my heart was no longer into performing
music and I intended to stand down from my position in the band in pursuit of
what I felt would be a more satisfying career and consequently a more
fulfilled life. Jon was very adamant that I should not leave the band, and asked me
not to do something that I might live to regret. I was compelled to stay with
it, but as it turns out my course had remained altered.

For you to understand my position on this matter, I feel I must explain
myself. As for many people, in and outside of the United States, the events of
September 11, 2001 had a profound impact. For me personally, it shined a new
light on life. It forced me to realize how precious and how short life is. I
feel very fortunate to have been a part of something that has affected so many
throughout the world, but I believe that what I am striving for will also
reflect positively on those I come in contact with.

I am presently going to school in order to obtain my Bachelor's Degree in
Criminal Justice Administration. When I have received my degree, I intend to
follow with a career in law enforcement administration.

I realize that it may be difficult for some of you to understand the decision
that has been made, but please believe that it has been made to preserve the
integrity of Iced Earth. I know that there will be people who bad-mouth the
band and me for this and that there will never be a good enough explanation.
For those people, I feel pity that they must live through others and I hope
that someday they will find themselves in another place. I have been on a great
ride with all of you and I have not a single regret. There are great things
to come from Iced Earth and we will all be there to witness them.

I wish Jon and the guys well and I thank you in advance for your support and
understanding.


Best wishes,

Matt

and Jon

Hello All,

As you can see from Matt's post a very difficult decision has been made.
The events of 9-11 have affected us all in very different ways. I think it
made most people step back, take a look at their lives and change their
priorities. I certainly did and so did most of the people I know. In fact, I would bet
that the whole reason I chose the theme of "The Glorious Burden" for the next
CD was probably because my sub-conscious is dealing with what happened that
day. I realize that some of you don't care about what happened, and actually
that's your problem, but I know that most of you do. We have never been afraid
to show our loyalty and love of country way before 9-11, and anyone who has
paid attention knows that. The reason that I'm explaining all of this is so that
you know how close Iced Earth came to being a memory. After the attacks I was
also questioning what I had done with my life and if there was some way that I
could help people and do something that really mattered instead of this
"illusion" called the music business. When something this real and tragic happens
it has a huge effect on guys like Matt and I, who come from families who have
served, and who have a fierce dedication to our republic.

The music business is a big lie, plain and simple. It's an illusion that's
marketed and sold. It's the big production, photos, videos, promotion and image
building and all the other shit that makes you the fans think and feel a
certain way about whatever band or style it is that you're into, and you don't even
know it, that's the amazing thing. However, what happens behind the scenes in
the real world is often very different from the fantasies that the fans
create in their own minds about their favorite artists. Fans base these fantasies
on the images they are fed.

The point to all of this is that it's pretty hard to stay positive and take
it seriously when you figure out what a huge lie it is. After 9-11 I nearly
dissolved the band because I thought that what I do with my band is pretty
insignificant in the big picture, and it is. However, after months and months of
very heavy thought I realized that it doesn't really matter that the music
business is a big fucking lie because my songs are not, and my songs are the only
reason that I do this. I've said it before, I don't care about the rock star or
guitar hero bullshit, this thing called Iced Earth from the very beginning has
been a vehicle for my songs and that's it. If some fans have created another
"reality" about I.E. in their own minds, I can't help them with that, that's
the "illusion" that's getting them. Iced Earth is and always has been my band
and my vehicle to get my songs out, no matter the members that are involved.
It's entertaining to see and hear some of things people come up with when they
have absolutely no facts. Some people get it and some don't and that's ok
because in the end the only person that I need to please is me, and usually if I am
pleased then the majority of the fans will be as well. I have no need or
desire for Iced Earth to have fair weather fans. I realize that comments like this
make people think I must be a real prick, and maybe they're right, but I know
who I am and what I stand for and that scares some people.

I hope that this long and wordy post will help you all make sense of the
changes that are taking place.

Matt called me a few weeks before we started pre-production and said that he
wanted to quit the band and pursue a career doing administrative work for the
Department of Homeland Security. He feels that because he is not a songwriter
he'd have a more secure future and would be happier doing some good in the
real world rather than living the illusion of something as shallow as a "rock
star." I asked him to not do something he would live to regret, we have a new
label and I've written by far the strongest and most compelling material ever and
we basically have a new beginning. In hindsight I should not have pressured
him into staying but there was no way I could have predicted what would happen,
Matt had already quit in his heart, yet out of loyalty he was willing to give
it a shot. The recording of the vocals did not go smoothly. It was obvious to
Jim Morris (producer) and me that something was very wrong. However, we
pushed forward and Jim felt that we may have to change the way we mixed the vocals
but that we'd basically be ok. After tracking was done we proceeded with the
mix. I was becoming more and more disturbed with the way things were sounding
and by the time we started the mix on the 32 minute Gettysburg (1863) epic I
knew I had to make a serious decision. It was not a decision that I ever wanted
to make; I always expected Matt and I to jam together until we were grumpy old
men.

Here's the not so glorious burden of being the guy who makes tough decisions:
I decided to stop production and shelve the album until I find a new singer.
Matt's heart was not in it and it showed in his performance. I'm sure that's
hard for some of you to believe but it's simply a fact. There are a lot of
things you can do with today's technology to make a singer sound better but you
can't add feeling with a computer. And we all know from past recordings that Matt
has never had a problem delivering feeling, so it was obvious that it was
over and he just didn't have it in his heart to really feel the album.
The Glorious Burden is without a doubt the best album I have ever written. It
is the first time that I've written about such serious and important events.
It's also the first time that I've written about something as near and dear to
my heart as the history of our country. It probably sounds corny to some of
you but I've often used the American Revolution as inspiration to give me the
strength to carry on in this constant uphill battle. My love and passion for
the study of the Civil War is being translated to music for the first time in
the history of the band and that's what makes this album so special. I spent
countless hours creating what is most definitely my masterpiece as a songwriter.
This is not just another album about dark fantasy/sci-fi/horror material.
After Horror Show, which is a good record but the personal touch is missing on a
lot of it; I felt this would be the best way to bring that personal passion
back into the music in a new and fresh way.

So it really comes down to the fact that I still feel like I've got something
to say as a song writer, so I'm going to keep going. I would have rather
continued the way things were but I can't make someone want to do something, no
one can. This has been a very hard decision, and a costly one, but I would
rather not release an album at all than to have it haunt me for the rest of my life
because I knew it wasn't the way it should be. Also, I will carry on because
I can't see flushing nearly 20 years of hard work down the toilet because a
member has had a change of heart. I don't think real Iced Earth fans would want
that either.

I have spent some of the best times of my life with Matt. We have been able
to experience many things in our travels together and I hope he finds what he
seeks for his future, I truly wish him the best for his life.

And so another chapter in the struggle for Iced Earth and my love of metal
begins. I have to say I feel great and completely energized and am very
optimistic for our future. A strange thing considering the uncertainty that lies
ahead, but if you know me, you know I love a challenge.

The Glorious Burden will come out in all it's glory when I find the right guy
to redo the vocals. If it takes 2 months, 6 months, a year; whatever it takes
to do it right we will get it out the way it's meant to be. The true and
dedicated fans should not be concerned that this is the end; it most definitely is
not, before you know it the album will be out and it will be the best thing
you've heard from Iced Earth.

I hope most of you will understand the situation that I'm in and will be
confident that I will carry on in the same I.E. tradition as I always have;
quality, honesty and integrity...

Stay Metal!

Jon Schaffer

SHITE!
 
Ill bet Ripper Owens is going to be the new vocalist.

Which will be cool, but still:

:cry: FUCK :cry:
 
I wonder when we are going to see the album now... Its missed its September release, so I dont think we will see it this year at all.

Maybe he will do a Demons And Wizards one in the meantime.

Bah, this sucks! I dont think Matt had any problems with the vocals at all, I think Jon just didnt want to release an album then tour it with someone else (Ripper :) )
 
What gets me about this though is both of them going "9/11 made me realise that what I do is pretty insignificant" blah blah blah. I'M SO SICK OF HEARING THAT! After Japan bombed Pearl Harbor in 1941, did Bob Hope say "I'm going to stop being an entertainer because it's shallow?" Did Clark Gable say "I'm not going to be an actor anymore?" NO! Why? Because after an event like that, we need our entertainers more than ever! Their contribution to the healing process is just as important as the guy who drives the ambulance with an injured person in it. Sure, it might many people think about what they're doing with their lives, but what if every band, singer, actor, film-maker etc. turned around after an event like that and said "Oh, we're not going to entertain anymore. It's shallow and there's no point. I'm going to become a government drone instead, because that will give my life purpose"?

It's fucking WEAK, people!
 
I think Matt was getting a little tired of it, he was working, wanted to do a degree and still be in the band, one of them had to go :cry:

Iced Earth may never make it to the stage where Matt could live off the earnings comfortably (Jon can but he gets all the songwriting royalties) so he probably decided to leave to secure his future, thats what I think anyway...

Theres no WAY IE should quit.
If Black Sabbath had quit after Ozzy left we never would have gotten Heaven And Hell.
If Van Halen quit after Dave left, we wouldnt have gotten 5150
If ACDC quit after Bon died we never would have gotten Back In Black.
And so on... Its going to be impossible to replace Matt, but thats always the case, each vocalist brings a special character to the band. Though replacing Matt is going to be a really hard task because he was technically really good, and theres few people I can think of available for IE to use...
 
spawn said:
Theres no WAY IE should quit.
If Black Sabbath had quit after Ozzy left we never would have gotten Heaven And Hell.
If Van Halen quit after Dave left, we wouldnt have gotten 5150
If ACDC quit after Bon died we never would have gotten Back In Black.
And so on... Its going to be impossible to replace Matt, but thats always the case, each vocalist brings a special character to the band. Though replacing Matt is going to be a really hard task because he was technically really good, and theres few people I can think of available for IE to use...

Perhaps, but Black Sabbath and Van Halen were two of the biggest bands in the world and both had already peaked when their singers left (the same could be said for Maiden, Priest and Anthrax). AC/DC were on the cusp of breaking when Bon died. Iced Earth aren't even the biggest band in the mid-west. It's going to be really tough for them to continue without him.
 
Yeah I see what you mean :) But Jon has had setbacks before and im sure he knows he is going to have to find someone REALLY good, and I still think Ripper is going to be his first choice if he can get him to leave JP.
 
Ripper would be incredible in Iced Earth, but I doubt it would happen. He may not be having the best of times in Priest, and his future there is anything but secure - but would he leave?
 
Jon said in an interview he would LOVE to do something with Ripper one day, he said Ripper is a brilliant vocalist and he has his number and they talk every month or so... He said this while Matt was in the band.

Meanwhile every man and his dog knows Rippers time in JP will end the second Rob wants to come back. Even Ripper knows he is just killing time for them now, especially as they took a year off and he was so bored he decided to play in a cover band...

I think Ripper will be Jons first choice... Whether Ripper would leave JP is another story, but I dont know if he will want to just hang around and hope.

:D