canadian man goes mental and beheads and mutilates man sleeping next to him on bus
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broken81
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Yeap just another situation that could have been stooped before the kid died if only someone had a gun. Fuck the buss driver should be able to have one at least.
Anyway does Canada have the death sentence?
Wait, dude...I've ridden the NYC subways for years, and while I've seen the occasional random really loud crazy dude shouting stuff, I've never seen anything more violent than a tussle you'd see in a high school locker room, and certainly nothing remotely close to a guy being fucking DECAPITATED with scissors and a knife - I mean, as you were saying, the amount of hacking/brute force you'd need to cut through someone's spinal column with either of those paraphanelia, not to mention how raw and bloody it would be; unless you've witnessed like a gang war on a subway train, I really don't agree that this anything remotely similar.
Yeah man, damn - just whip out an M9 and drop him, though it might be hard to get a clean shot (although I'm sure a lot of people were ducking). Do you prefer to carry a 9mm pistol, or something heavier? Cuz for basic self-defense (when your attacker is probably not gonna be armored), I think I'd actually prefer a lighter caliber round so as to have less of a risk of killing the guy (which, despite how much this particular douche may have deserved it, still seems like WAY more legal trouble than its worth).
Also, on a completely theoretical note, does a .357 magnum have more stopping power than a .45? I would assume so, given that the magnum round has way more charge and is a flat-front bullet for more impact distribution, but the larger diameter of the .45 is what gives me pause. Oh yeah, and is there any kind of magazine-fed magnum? (besides the absurdly-sized Desert Eagle, of course)
I think a .45 has more stopping power, due to its physical size. But I believe a .357 has way more muzzle velocity due to the smaller caliber and more powder.
I have 2 different sidearms. I'll pick and choose based on what I am wearing. I'm anti 9mm. I own a FN five-seven, which is easy to fire, accurate as hell, and has a muzzle velocity that allows it to punch through anything. But it's hard to conceal. I also have a XD .45 Compact, which I carry the most.
If any one is ever in Ohio, don't fuck with me
From what it sounds like, everyone on that bus got off as soon as the guy started to stab. Clean shot would have been easy. If you listened to that sound clip, there were a bunch of cops there, waiting for backup, while the guy was in the bus alone eating his parts. I don't know how the Mounties work, but seems like they don't like confrontation.
I don't have the compact, but I'm about to trade for one... I currently have the XD45 Service model. Not as pretty as a 1911, but that's about the only bad thing I can come up with to say about it!
Oh, and Metaltastic, I know this sounds callous and brutal, but I think the legal ramifications of killing someone who is doing something like that are much less than seriously wounding them. It's a lot harder for them to make a legal issue of it (and question how threatened you felt if you decided killing was not justified, but assault with a deadly weapon was) if the guy's dead. Plus, if you shoot to wound, who knows what kind of drugs the guy's on... he may barely notice. Adrenaline can also be a powerful factor. If I ever find myself in a dire enough situation where I NEED to shoot someone (and I sure as hell hope I never do), I am going to do everything in my power to make sure they stay down.
scorpio01169
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that's the problem with the world today, we are so worried about what legal problems we'll have if we step in and do the right thing. a few weeks ago there was a woman in our apartment complex getting her ass beat in the parking lot by her boyfriend and there was a crowd watching. and in all this not one of them called the police. i heard the noise and called the police before i even went outside to see what was going on...but i knew something bad was happining......i actually got alot of it on video.
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It's a bitch dude. Where I live you can sue someone for looking at you stupid.
I myself won 4 in the last 5 years. I don't know if it comes up when I get pulled over but for some reason I get a lot of "warnings". Gotta be careful even helping someone, they in turn can sue you. A girl I know gets in her BMW her daddy got her, drunk. Backed out the drive way like a crazy woman gets hit by a car. After all was said and done she got over 100k off the other person/insurance. Thats pretty messed up :zombie:I've heard of stories similar to that where some moron decided to break into someone's home and was injured by the frightened home owner who was just defending their family only to sue the home owner and WIN in court for damages incurred during the "attack".
Also similarly, another burgular who was attacked by a family dog and sued. Again WINNING the case because it was a pitbull and I'm sure you've all heard the hype about how pitbulls are dangerous animals.
Anymore it is WAY too easy to lose hope for humanity because consistently on a daily basis it seems like more and more people in the world are losing their damn minds.
Yeah the way our justice system works in fucked up, yet necessary at the same time. Due to it being split into criminal and civil courts, things like that can happen. The civil courts can give two shits that it was a burglar, all they look at is if the injuries occurred on that property and why they occurred. And civil courts only need a majority to pass(>or< 50%), unlike criminal court which is 'beyond a reasonable doubt', or 100%
You make a good point dude, and unfortunately, given the very real cases people have mentioned about burgulars winning lawsuits against the people they were robbing, maybe it is easier legally just to drop 'em then and there. However, I wouldn't want the guilt of killing somebody on my conscience; the way I see it, everyone has someone who cares for them, and it just kills me to think I'd be the one to cause that person such grief. I mean, someone could be robbing your house, and you wake up, grab your gun from the bedside drawer, and ice him - only to find out that the robber was just a confused, rebellious teenager on a dare or wanting to join a gang or something, whose parents and family love him and just want him to shape up, and even though that's no excuse for his actions, I hardly think he deserves to die for it.
I know that of course in the circumstance in question I'd have no trouble sleeping at night if I plugged this cannibalistic decapitator guy through the heart, but I'm just saying that in general, if I were to carry a firearm, I'd want it to be on the wimpier side. And I personally think the 1911 is really ugly, mostly cuz in general I hate old looking things
To me, guns like the H&K pistols (USP & Mk. 23) are the sexiest aesthetically.Wolfe, I'm surprised you went for the Five-Seven; that uses P90 rounds, right? Cuz it's cool that FN developed a high-velocity round for SMG-/pistol-sized mags, but against an unarmored target, wouldn't the tiny rice-grain bullet just go right through and do like no damage? And how come you don't like the old faithful 9mm?
Holy shit, good for you dude - sounds like another Kitty Genovese case, but at least you were the one to break the bystander stereotype this time!
I don't understand how this could work though; regardless of the court, isn't it an (ideally) impartial jury that makes these decisions? How could they possibly sympathize with a burglar over the homeowner, unless the former had Johnny Cochrane as a lawyer and latter had a retarded chinchilla?
I have spent 99% of my studies on the criminal courts, and we only dabbled in the civil system, so i can't really comment to much on it, as I don't know much
But the best I can do to explain it is look at the OJ Simpson case, it shows the difference between the way the 2 courts work. He was found 100% not guilty by the criminal court, but in civil court was found at fault for many things.
Same thing as those burglar cases, only opposite convictions
The Five-Seven is a great weapon, very easy to control, and like you said is great against anyone wearing a Kevlar vest. It's kind of like shooting someone with a 223 at close, like you said, it would go right through them and they would probably keep going. Well, I just like it
I have never liked firing a 9mm for some reason. I think carrying and firing the 92fs for so long ruined it for me(the US built M9 SUCKS).
One day a may try out a few, and might change my mind.
scorpio01169
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But the best I can do to explain it is look at the OJ Simpson case, it shows the difference between the way the 2 courts work. He was found 100% not guilty by the criminal court, but in civil court was found at fault for many things.
Same thing as those burglar cases, only opposite convictions
I in no way am trying to bring racism into the conversation, however that trial brought racism out to the open. and when i say this i mean racism on both sides. white people just knew that black man was guilty and black people were saying it's about time a black man can get over on a white person.....i remember reading blogs how white people were saying things like " this is the reason races shouldn't mix" and black people saying things like " I dont know if he did it but if he did now they see what we go through". both views are wrong in my opinion. and peoples reaction to the not guilty verdict was crazy, black people cheering and white people crying.....and in all that everyone forgot that two human beings were lost.
oh yeah this threat should be moved to OT thread
LOL... I just posted that as an example of how civil/criminal courts worked.... Didn't want to start a conversation about it
work a dead end job for another 20 years and you`ll know what im talking about
seriously, raising a family on a low income is very difficult and is the root cause of this IMO
scorpio01169
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i know but the point i was making was the fact that he was guilty civilly was do to the uproar of displeasure by people from him being found not guilty criminally.LOL... I just posted that as an example of how civil/criminal courts worked.... Didn't want to start a conversation about it
and the other point i was trying to make was that people looking at things from the outside dont think/care about the impact of whats really going on....like in the bus thing.....did anyone think/care to help this guy out.
J the TyranT
Thats just how it is...
TravisW
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I don't disagree that raising a family on a low income is stressful, but if that was the root of random killings, we'd see a whole lot more of it. It may have been the catalyst that pushed him over the edge, but most people who go over the edge don't go on a cannibalistic rampage.
