Cheap way to reamp.

[Seizure.]

greatings...

i'm going to record a band with which i will be doing drums in a studio and guitar at my home studio. (pentium 4 PC, EMU 1212, still have to buy an audio interface/preamp.... and i have myself an sm57, and considering on of them audix's...)

but like you saw i'm still lacking the interface/good preamp...

so i if you could give some advice on an option for that around 300 euro i would be gratefull to...

but for now i would like to record the guitars right after the drum recordings (few days after..) to keep some off the tension up so to say..

but i only have a POD 2.0 and would abviously like to be able to reamp!!!

but i can't find and afford me one..

so is there a guerrilla way to reamp, that i should know of?

would be greatly apreciated and it would widen my options here...

SPANX!~!

 

[metalkingdom]

greatings...

i'm going to record a band with which i will be doing drums in a studio and guitar at my home studio. (pentium 4 PC, EMU 1212, still have to buy an audio interface/preamp.... and i have myself an sm57, and considering on of them audix's...)

but like you saw i'm still lacking the interface/good preamp...

so i if you could give some advice on an option for that around 300 euro i would be gratefull to...

but for now i would like to record the guitars right after the drum recordings (few days after..) to keep some off the tension up so to say..

but i only have a POD 2.0 and would abviously like to be able to reamp!!!

but i can't find and afford me one..

so is there a guerrilla way to reamp, that i should know of?

would be greatly apreciated and it would widen my options here...

SPANX!~!

Check out the Presonus Firepod. 8 class 'A' mic pre's via firewire.

Split you guitar signal two record two tracks - one with the POD and one direct. Send the direct back out to an amp when you're ready. I actually learned this trick from James Murphy (in EQ magazine) about 10 years ago!

 

[Seizure.]

wouldn't you have some impedance problems? (i'm a noob to stuff like impedance, but i know what the effect cvan be!!!)

i mean if it was this simple then why is everyone buying reamps?
But i shall try it!! and if it works, forget i said any of this!!

thanks, i saw the presonus yeah.. seems a damn good option.. but isn't the ad/da card an option that you have to pay extra for?

 

[Lopes]

All you need is a simple direct box to record the signal from the guitar, that will take care of the impedence issue, you only need a reamp box when you are finally ready to send it to an amp. If I were you, I would wait until you have an actual reamp box before planning on doing it because getting the right levels going in can be a little tricky if you're not experienced with reamping.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

If the firepod is a little expensive for you then go for the behringer ada8000...lower quality but gets the job done...i use it with 1212 all the time. total of 10 inputs for like $200 more!

 

[Seizure.]

If the firepod is a little expensive for you then go for the behringer ada8000...lower quality but gets the job done...i use it with 1212 all the time. total of 10 inputs for like $200 more!

yeah, its my choice right know to...

10? i thought it was 8

 

[Seizure.]

All you need is a simple direct box to record the signal from the guitar, that will take care of the impedence issue, you only need a reamp box when you are finally ready to send it to an amp. If I were you, I would wait until you have an actual reamp box before planning on doing it because getting the right levels going in can be a little tricky if you're not experienced with reamping.

care to explain the problems with the input levels your were talking about?

and my question was: could i reamp without an official reamp box, so know any aboot that?

 

[Brett - K A L I S I A]

Split you guitar signal two record two tracks - one with the POD and one direct. Send the direct back out to an amp when you're ready. I actually learned this trick from James Murphy (in EQ magazine) about 10 years ago!

Mmm, I think you got it wrong, because his problem is exactly what you tell him to do : send the direct back to an amp. For that, he'd need a reamp box. Some people told that Boss pedal acts like cheap reamp unit, don't know if it's true but you could try this.

 

[Brett - K A L I S I A]

(double post)

 

[metalkingdom]

Use the DI in reverse. I know in theory this isn't correct, but it works for a "guerilla approach" as Seizure put it.

 

[Lopes]

care to explain the problems with the input levels your were talking about?

If you don't have a high enough signal going in to your interface, you might have problems getting a "true" sound coming out of the amp when you decide to reamp. That are little "band-aids" you could apply to this, but it's always best to get a good level that you know will work going in.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

yeah, its my choice right know to...

10? i thought it was 8

8 on the behringer + 2 on the 1212 gives you ten.

 

[JV]

To reamp, you need a device such as Reamp to convert the signal back to what the input of the amp is looking for. A reamp box is a "direct box" in reverse. So in order to record your guitar signal, you need to convert it (direct box) to line line level which is what your recorder is looking for. To reamp, the oppsite...By the way, seeing as you only have POD,as you described, you can record your guitar using the USB port. You would not need an interface ($$$$). By using your Pod this way, there is no reason to reamp. Adjust the tone as you record.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

To reamp, you need a device such as Reamp to convert the signal back to what the input of the amp is looking for. A reamp box is a "direct box" in reverse. So in order to record your guitar signal, you need to convert it (direct box) to line line level which is what your recorder is looking for. To reamp, the oppsite...By the way, seeing as you only have POD,as you described, you can record your guitar using the USB port. You would not need an interface ($$$$). By using your Pod this way, there is no reason to reamp. Adjust the tone as you record.

I think part of the reason one wants to reamp is to adjust the tone after recording, at least for me it is....btw if you record at instrument level, can't you just set the output of your soundcard back to instrument level? Isn't that just a minimal effect on your tone?

 

[JV]

Posted by Genius Gone Insane:

think part of the reason one wants to reamp is to adjust the tone after recording, at least for me it is....btw if you record at instrument level, can't you just set the output of your soundcard back to instrument level? Isn't that just a minimal effect on your tone?


A recorder is looking for a line level signal, which is low impedence. An amp is looking for a high impedence signal. Most sound cards/boxes can be set to+4/-10 signals. Both are low impedence. By switching to either one, and running the direct recorded signal out, it is still not high impedence. Which is what your amp is looking for. This is why you need a device such as reamp to do reamping. Most soundcard/boxes these days have mic pres which will also accept a high impedence input signal, such as a guitar. The outputs won't. They are low level. Your amp does not want to see +4/-10.

The original poster wants to reamp, and yes I know that you would normally do this afterwards. But he said he's working with a limited budget. The reason I recommended to adjust his tone while recording is to save some bucks. Ya' know...use your ears. But if he is dead set on reamping, then you need a device such as reamp. No other way I believe.

 

[the_hyphen]

Hey, I'm new here and this might be a stupid question to ask but here goes...


What is re-amping? I've never heard of it before. Can anyone explain it very simply? Thanks.



.:hyphen:.

 

[metalkingdom]

Ok guys. The Reamp was invented in the early 90's. This is a trick that is nearly as old as multitracking itself. Check out this link:

Recording Magazine (oh, the irony!) September 2003
http://www.radialeng.com/di-jdi-reviews.htm

It works with passive DI's, too. Granted the Reamp will sound better, but the original post was asking for a cheap alternative.

 

[Nitronium Blood]

greatings...

i'm going to record a band with which i will be doing drums in a studio and guitar at my home studio. (pentium 4 PC, EMU 1212, still have to buy an audio interface/preamp.... and i have myself an sm57, and considering on of them audix's...)

but like you saw i'm still lacking the interface/good preamp...

so i if you could give some advice on an option for that around 300 euro i would be gratefull to...

but for now i would like to record the guitars right after the drum recordings (few days after..) to keep some off the tension up so to say..

but i only have a POD 2.0 and would abviously like to be able to reamp!!!

but i can't find and afford me one..

so is there a guerrilla way to reamp, that i should know of?

would be greatly apreciated and it would widen my options here...

SPANX!~!

Is purchasing a Pod Xt and re-amping that way out of the question?

 

[Disconnekt]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're using EMGs, I think that takes care of the impedance issue by itself. Since the impedance is already low and would be even if you were plugging straight in the amp, you shouldn't need a DI to record or a reamp box to reamp; recording straight into the line input should work just fine (since the impedance is already matched), and sending it back out a line output (as long as you can control the level of the signal somehow) to the amp should also work fine. I have tried it, and I've noticed no tonal difference to plugging straight into the amp.

 

[the_hyphen]

Ok, that article shows me what the unit is. But I'm still not understanding what the process of reamping is. From what I'm sort of gathering, I am guessing that basically you are recording a clean direct guitar (guitar -> cable -> console/whatever) for the purpose of later pushing that recorded signal into an amplifier, as if the musician was plugging directly in? Or no? Does this actually work with amplifiers? Does the amplifier sound like it's being played at that moment? Or are some of the characteristics missing or odd? Somone clear this up for me please.

.:hyphen:.