converters
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Mixes as a whole? Probably 6-7, and that's being generous...you have a Fireface now, right? Andy and James use the stock converters in the Digidesign 192 i/o, and I doubt those are any better (maybe even a bit inferior) to the Fireface's, so there are PLENTY of other places to spend your money. If anything, I'd say just get a 2-channel A/D converter (Benchmark makes pretty much the best from what I've heard) for key instruments and leave it at that.
broken81
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I don't think converters are gonna give you a better mix necessarily. You might get a better sound when tracking instruments and make things easier. I think mic placement mic pres and instrument sound itself and just knowing how to mix properly are way more important.
I'm sure some will differ with my opinion...
I'm sure some will differ with my opinion...
Ermz
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This is arguable but to me the difference between decent and great conversion is probably one of the smallest qualitative differences in the gear chain. Mics, preamps, room, monitors & monitor controller (yea, seriously) in almost all cases amount to a much larger difference in sound quality.
You'll find so many people at the high end saying the usual 'RME is brittle, cold, harsh. Mytek, Lavry, Benchmark, Lynx, Prism are more 3d, more defined image blah blah' but seriously with the sort of monitoring and recording techniques many of the home studio guys here use, it doesn't matter in the slightest. It might account for 2% difference in their work, if they can even hear it.
The amount of money from decent (read: not shit) to great conversion is simply the epitome of diminishing returns.
You'll find so many people at the high end saying the usual 'RME is brittle, cold, harsh. Mytek, Lavry, Benchmark, Lynx, Prism are more 3d, more defined image blah blah' but seriously with the sort of monitoring and recording techniques many of the home studio guys here use, it doesn't matter in the slightest. It might account for 2% difference in their work, if they can even hear it.
The amount of money from decent (read: not shit) to great conversion is simply the epitome of diminishing returns.
Furthermore, this is dense metal/rock mixes we're talking here; the only place I can see it being even remotely noticeable is in entirely acoustic music with a HUMONGOUS amount of detail and subtlety, such as orchestral stuff.
There is also a Crane Song Spider listed on Andy's equipment page which has a great A/D converter in it. Crane Song converters are top notch - I assume he takes advantage of that at times.
LSD-Studio
HCAF crusher
Using primarily the RME adi8 and am pefectly fine with them.
for the C2 on the 2bus I'm using Apogee.
sure, I'd like to have a Lavry gold, but for that money there's tons of other stuff to improve before I get one
for the C2 on the 2bus I'm using Apogee.
sure, I'd like to have a Lavry gold, but for that money there's tons of other stuff to improve before I get one
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We got at the studio a RME Fireface 800, and both Lynx Aurora and a Mytek converters. The Mytek is obviously better (more detailed, better stereo imaging) but the difference isn;t night and day. It is very subtle and in a blind test , i doubt one would not much of a difference.
Loren Littlejohn
Lover of all boobage.
I couldn't tell a difference between the 192 I/O converters and the benchmarks. It's all about the mics and the preamps.
ze kink
THE BLACK WIZARDS
This really opened up my eyes: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gear...5267-lynx-aurora-16-vs-behringer-ada8000.html
So indeed, converters have a very small effect.
So indeed, converters have a very small effect.
Man...GearSlutz is full of pieces of shit that talk out of their ass all day long. WHO FUCKING CARES!?!? How about trying to just record some fucking music for once? Instead of talking about the fucking kind of copper shielding in your ASS.
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I had difficulties choosing a favourite for the first test but on the second I did choose the Lynx, then I flipped the phase on the original (something I've always done on such A/B tests) and heard how closer B is. Having said that, you won't see me spending a couple of thousand euro on a converter anytime soon.
ze kink
THE BLACK WIZARDS
Glenn Fricker
Very Metal &Very Bad News
Ermz
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Great thread. Seems the deficiencies of the Behringer converter are the very thing that caused a vast majority to pick it over the Aurora. Ahh people... 
There you go. Spend that extra several grand on acoustic treatment and speakers.
There you go. Spend that extra several grand on acoustic treatment and speakers.
