Destruction of Oz Cancelled!
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Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Dont like the chances of another one now I agree with Winmar, just one band I wanted to see like Blaze, Nevermore, IE etc. would have gotten me there.
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
They won't try this again.
Interesting you mentioned Nevermore spawn. When they toured here in 99, hardly anyone went to see them. If they toured now, they'd need big venues.
Interesting you mentioned Nevermore spawn. When they toured here in 99, hardly anyone went to see them. If they toured now, they'd need big venues.
Blitzkrieg
Master Exploder
This is a shame, as they were talking about bringing out a big band next year, but if they had done that this year it would have been a huge success, and now its all over. Motorhead or Dio or Nevermore or Iced Earth could have made this thing HUGE!!
What a shame.
What a shame.
IMHO bands like Nevermore, Iced Earth, Blaze, Gravedigger, Kamelot etc would draw more because only hardcore black metal fans will see Marduk etc whereas Nevermore and the others have far more of a crossover appeal.
Even black/death metal fans enjoy Nevermore for instance, and power metal fans arent alienated by the vocals etc.
Oh well, its a shame it didnt go ahead, but theres no way I wanted to pay for plane tickets/accomodation etc. for a festival where there wasnt one band on the bill I was interested in
Gorey: Yeah Tim told me that there were like 50 people at their Sydney gig in 97, but now they would play to sold out shows, im sure of that!
Even black/death metal fans enjoy Nevermore for instance, and power metal fans arent alienated by the vocals etc.
Oh well, its a shame it didnt go ahead, but theres no way I wanted to pay for plane tickets/accomodation etc. for a festival where there wasnt one band on the bill I was interested in
Gorey: Yeah Tim told me that there were like 50 people at their Sydney gig in 97, but now they would play to sold out shows, im sure of that!
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
The bottom line is that it wouldn't matter which bands had been on the bill for this event. The market in this country for this type of music is far too small and spread out over far too large a territiory to host a European-style metalfest. Destruction of Oz needed to sell 1500 tickets just to break even. That was a very big ask, considering that even people in Melbourne weren't keen to go. You can't have a big central event in Australia because there's nowhere that's central. If you have it in Melbourne, it's too far from Brisbane. If you have it in Sydney, it's too far from Adelaide, and everywhere is too far from Perth. It's not just the distance either. The scene itself is too polarised. Unless you could pick four bands that absolutely everyone would want to go see, there's always going to be a bunch of people who won't bother turning up, and if you just have metal bands, you're only going to get metalheads there. And there's just not enough of us in Australia. It's as simple as that.
Sydney has way more people though, you have to remember that, and I think they could get 1500 if the lineup had been different, I dont think it was that there werent enough metalheads, just the lineup had really niche bands like Marduk and Cryptopsy, and Doro is well known but how many people in Australia buy her cds?
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Hardly anyone. But hardly anyone (proportionately) buys Nevermore CDs, as well. Certainly they sell more than Doro, Marduk and (possibly) Cryptopsy put together, but I doubt they've sold more than a couple of thousand of each of their albums here. Even if there was 5,000 Nevermore fans, all 5,000 wouldn't turn up to a show. Think about how many people own Pantera albums, and they struggled to get 5,000 to their last Sydney concert. And while Sydney does have "way" more people than Melbourne, it's well known that way more people go to gigs in Melbourne than they do in Sydney.
Celestial-Todd
The Incredible Bulk
What worries me about all this is that I've heard stuff about other tours the organiser is meant to be doing later this year and in the new year... I just hope this doesn't affect them!
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Celestial-Todd
The Incredible Bulk
Well I'd say that's the reason he cancelled DOOF now, he'd probably lose less just by cancelling the whole show then going ahead with average tcket sales
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Very true. But IMO it was wildly optimistic of him to have expected to sell the numbers he needed in the first place.
Sydney might have the bigger population but Melbourne has the bigger metal population I think.
I agree with Gorey too about how just because a band sells alot of records doesn't mean they'll go to the show. Alice Cooper only sold half the tickets for Melbourne Park in 2001. Alice Cooper! How many people would own Alice Cooper albums? HEAPS. And Alice Cooper tickets dropped to $32/$42 in the last couple of weeks too. Yet they still hardly sold any.
Even Judas Priest didn't sell out The Palace (where Destruction Of Oz was gonna be), and how many people own Priest albums? Motley Crue had to cancel their tour here because they sold fuck all tickets, and how many people would own Motley Crue albums? There would have to be more than 10,000 people in each city who have Dr Feelgood somewhere, but most of them just aren't interested in seeing them live anymore.
Unless you're Kiss, it seems to be very hard to attract people to your concerts these days.
I agree with Gorey too about how just because a band sells alot of records doesn't mean they'll go to the show. Alice Cooper only sold half the tickets for Melbourne Park in 2001. Alice Cooper! How many people would own Alice Cooper albums? HEAPS. And Alice Cooper tickets dropped to $32/$42 in the last couple of weeks too. Yet they still hardly sold any.
Even Judas Priest didn't sell out The Palace (where Destruction Of Oz was gonna be), and how many people own Priest albums? Motley Crue had to cancel their tour here because they sold fuck all tickets, and how many people would own Motley Crue albums? There would have to be more than 10,000 people in each city who have Dr Feelgood somewhere, but most of them just aren't interested in seeing them live anymore.
Unless you're Kiss, it seems to be very hard to attract people to your concerts these days.
I think its more about people who buy albums NOW though Troops, id have liked to see MC as well, but New Tattoo would be lucky to have sold 1000 copies Australia wide 
On a slightly related note, I heard rumours about Dimmu/Hypocrisy touring, and Silenoz recently said they were looking at coming ot Australia early next year, has anyone heard anything?
Oh and one other thing, maybe a little more notice may have helped the DOO thing, there was only 2 or 3 months given (as far as I know?) so maybe people just didnt have time to get the money together to travel and everything?
On a slightly related note, I heard rumours about Dimmu/Hypocrisy touring, and Silenoz recently said they were looking at coming ot Australia early next year, has anyone heard anything?
Oh and one other thing, maybe a little more notice may have helped the DOO thing, there was only 2 or 3 months given (as far as I know?) so maybe people just didnt have time to get the money together to travel and everything?
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
NOTE: I will say here that credit must be given to Mark for at least attempting this. Had Destruction of Oz gone ahead, and been successful, it could well have been a wake-up call to other promoters to give metal bands a go at "legitimate" festivals like Big Day Out and Livid. Now we'll never know.
