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From: http://www.whitetrashdevil.com

Review by Gloomchen

It would be far too easy to say "Listen If You Like My Dying Bride" when talking about Novembers Doom. Luckily, the band is smart enough to point out their own similarites before everyone can call them blatant followers or copycat artists. Oh yeah, they sound a lot like Anathema, too. Glad I got that out of my system.

It's easy to be cynical and quick to say, hey, they're Americans. Not only that, but they're from the midwest (Chicago, to be exact). Who in the hell are they to have any sort of connection to a death/black scene? Well, as a fellow midwesterner, let me just say that all of the suffering and pain in Novembers Doom's lyrics could not possibly more readily experienced by people living in another part of the US, maybe even the world. It's a sad, sad existence in the middle of nowhere. It's only natural that we would find comfort in the music of entire countries that live like us.

Slow and dark, To Welcome The Fade encapsulates touches of symphonic doom with the mid-to-older sounds of... bands I mentioned previously. It's not nearly as adventurous as their more well-known contemporaries have become, but it's a sound that has proven time and time again to be an influence and a favorite among the death community. Not only that, but these guys do it pretty damn well. There's no lack of songwriting skill -- nothing sticks out throughout the entire album like a sore thumb. Solid throughout, it's easily sure to be an emphatic recommendation by people who like... those other bands. Christ, is it even possible to describe these guys without coming back to those damn Brits?

To mention "highlights" of the album almost seems like blasphemy, as there is nothing either high or lit about the entire disc -- this is a crawl in the corner, mope, and lament album. Although one might be fooled by the tempo of the opening track "Not the Strong," after that, it's all sludge. "Broken," "Dark Fields For Brilliance," and "The Spirit Seed" are all pure tragedies, epic in length and sound. But overshadowing all of those, "The Lifeless Silhouette" is even more brutally dismal, nearly an inspiration for some grand murder/suicide. It just doesn't get any darker and abysmal than that.

The only real complaint about the album would be lyrically. With an easily understandable growl, it's a little too easy to find the ridiculous among the band's otherwise decent wordsmith skills. With Linkin Park in mind, I have to force back a chuckle when I hear, "I WISH MY MOTHER KNEW THE REAL ME" in "Not the Strong." Barring these moments of Geocities-esque poetic blundering, there's plenty of talk of blood and mutilation among the suffering and sorrow to make up for the occasional slip. Still, one would hope that someone out there is taking notes and in the future will spare us from the musings of Angsty McWhiner, Age 15.

There may be nothing particularly new or innovative among the work of Novembers Doom, but if you know what you like and you want more of what you like, To Welcome The Fade can't disappoint. You know, if you like My Dying Bride. In case you didn't catch that the first time around.

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From: http://www.appropriateapocalypse.com

There are very few times in the life cycle of a band where things come together perfectly. This convergence of talent, skill, and emotion is what every band thrives for. For November’s Doom, To Welcome The Fade is their moment. Everything is perfect place, from the wonderful production, to the incredibly emotional vocals this record will define their career. They can no longer be called a Doom metal band, as their evolution has taken them into uncharted territory. Where My Dying Bride and Paradise lost comparisons were valid for he band’s first few records, Novembers Doom is no longer following. The are leading. The band has a distinct sound that borrows from no one. To Welcome The Fade sees a shift away from the more progressive leanings of The Knowing in favor of a stripped down, more accessible sound. Yes, there is a definite emphasis on accessibility, but not at the expense of the band’s trademark melancholy. With this record, they have finally shed the Doom metal tag, and moved into a realm all their own. Vocalist Paul Kuhr has never sounded better, from his usual morose death vocals, to his chilling spoken word, the man conveys more emotion than just about any singer working today. The guitars, courtesy of the wonderful production c/o Neil Kernon, are heavy, yet expressive. The melodies work to convey the excellent lyrics. Standouts include “Not The Strong”, “Broken” and the wonderfully morose “Dark Fields For Brilliance”, but every track is worthy of a listen. Indeed, this record really needs to be experienced from beginning to end. A stunning achievement by a seasoned, talented band. Well worth your time.

-rhavin2112
 
From: www.corridorofcells.com

NOVEMBERS DOOM "To Welcome The Fade" Dark Symphonies
8 / 10
Years have passed since this band's classic "Amid Its Hallowed Mirth" debut floored doom metal fans back in the early 1990s. Since then band has been on-and-off in terms of its existence, but this new epic release should put them squarely back in the focus of many fans. Produced by Neil Kernon (who has worked with the likes of Nevermore and Cannibal Corpse), "To Welcome The Fade" features extremely polished and powerful production, as good and and as professional as anything million-dollar recording mainstream artists could afford. It's obvious that both Novembers Doom and their label Dark Symphonies believed in this new material and were willing to hire a (presumably) more expensive producer, but from a sound quality point of view the end result was definitely worth it: everything from the drums to the guitars to vocals sounds simply pristine. Musically, this is a very diverse album that definitely has a doomy feeling to it, but the mid-tempo nature of many songs probably means that Novembers Doom can't be really described as a traditional doom/death metal band anymore, as they have clearly gone beyond that simple label. The album starts off with "Not the Strong", "Broken" and "Lost in a Day", three fairly dynamic pieces highlighted by some excellent hooks with a slight atonal touch to them...reminded me somewhat of Germany's avant/doom/death metallers Disbelief, but performed in a more convincing fashion. Besides the thick guitar riffs the band tastefully blends in subtle gothic keyboards and acoustic guitar passages, which serve as a perfect counter-weight to the heavier sections and the brutal death vocals. Next track "With The Flesh" is more reminiscent of November Doom's earlier recordings, preferring a slow, steady rhythm that shows these guys still definitely feel the doom. After this heavy first half, "To Welcome the Fade" switches to a more melancholic mood with the acoustic "If Forever", a beautiful folky/gothic ballad highlighted by passionately romantic clean singing. The album returns to a darker mood in the second half, still skillfully oscillating between heaviness, doomy acoustic melancholy and gothic beauty. An extremely impressive comeback CD from a band that is long overdue for some massive exposure. Highly recommended.
 
From: http://www.urkraft-webzine.net/

NOVEMBERS DOOM - TO WELCOME THE FADE
Dark Symphonies, 2002

Now this is right up my alley! Heavy, doom influenced gothic metal with deep dark growls to top it off! Wunderbar!!! Although an American quartet (at the moment at least) Novembers Doom seem to draw most of their influences from the European metal scene and the British in particular. Classic albums with dignities like My Dying Bride, Anathema and Paradise Lost must have found their way into these gentlemen's stereos more than once! Not to say they are a total rip-off though but it's obvious that they have sought and found inspiration from the islands of Great Brittain. The production handled by Neil Kernon (who has worked with greats such as Kansas, Yes and Judas Priest in the past) is mega thick and further improves their massive wall of sound. A wall decorated with the finest of melodies and harmonies! This album is a must-have for all fans of doom metal in a time when the aforementioned (MDB excused!) acts have drifted off into a world of pop and electronica. "To Welcome the Fade" will haunt my mind for a long long time! Can't wait for November to arrive with its doom...
Rating: 8 of 10 - Reviewed by Stefan Lejon
 
Here is the English translation of Bjorn's review that will be appearing in Issue #68 of SCREAM Magazine (www.sream.no). This English version will probably never appear on their website (because the reviews haven't been updated in almost two years), and the magazine version of the review will be printed in Norwegian. And even though we've released 4 albums, who's counting anyway!


NOVEMBERS DOOM

”To Welcome The Fade”

Dark Symphonies 5/6 points.

This is the third album from Novembers Doom, and the band seems to be getting better for each album they release. I do believe the band has been listening a lot to Opeth this time, the way the songs are written does remind you a lot of the Swedish masters. Add some clean vocal parts and acoustic interludes, and you’ll get the picture. Having said that, Novembers Doom does have their own style, the melodies and heaviness doesn’t seem to be like anyone else. The band also has a certain avantegarde feel to it, which is enhanced by female vocals and calm, almost progressive parts. “To Welcome The Fade” has therefore become a very exciting album, filled with great songs, great production, and enormous death vocals. Highly recommended…

- Bjørn Nørsterud -
 
Review From: http://www.sonicdeath.co.uk/

Ten years since they were formed, Novembers Doom decided to recruit the award-winning producer Neil Kernon for their fourth full-length album. Kernon has worked with many bands of different styles, from Queensryche and Judas Priest to Cannibal Corpse. Now, if you were to mix those three you'd probably end up with a genre like 'Progressive Brutal Power Gore' or something. With no offence to any PBPG bands out there, I can't quite imagine that, though I like to think I'm open-minded...

Not surprisingly, Novembers Doom is still a Doom Metal act. It's not unheard of for Doom bands to experiment, often successfully, but this one seems to be satisfied with the style they've developed over the years. As well they should be, being one of the top bands of their genre. I'm not familiar with the previous works of Novembers Doom but I've often seen them compared to the great My Dying Bride, which is something any band can be proud of. However, I found "To Welcome the Fade" much more in the vein of Opeth, or at least somewhere in between the two. Though mournful and mainly slow, there are long instrumental and acoustic parts that create an atmosphere that is more in the style of Opeth than My Dying Bride, in my opinion. A wide range of vocals is used, including female, but on the whole this album is too heavy to be considered Gothic Metal, it's definitely still Doom.

There's one absolutely outstanding track here for me, and that's "Within My Flesh". It starts with a slow acoustic intro before thunderous, drawn-out distortion and some great death vocals full of emotion come in. Unfortunately, this is the only song on the album in classic doom metal style and I couldn't help feeling they went overboard with the acoustic parts ("If Forever" is completely acoustic). Perhaps I just wanted more tracks like "Within My Flesh" and prefer that style of Novembers Doom to their more gothic metal side. Still, the balance is perfectly acceptable and had they chosen one musical direction over the other, maybe it would have taken away a part of the atmosphere that Novembers Doom have obviously worked hard to create.

Although I can't compare this to their previous releases, I found "To Welcome the Fade" to be a high quality album, definitely worth a listen if you're into atmospheric doom. Opeth fans wouldn't be disappointed either, although I can't say I heard much My Dying Bride influence here as earlier suggested. Personally, I think somewhere in between those two bands would always be good but if you happen to disagree then this album probably won't be for you. Finally, if Anathema decides to release a 'Progressive Brutal Power Gore Death Metal' album in the future, it was my idea.

Mike Cartmell - 26/08/2002
 
Originally posted by ShadowLioness
Gothic Metal???? Okay this guy even contradicts himself. Towards the beginning he says that the album is too heavy to be considered gothic metal, and then later on he says that he prefers the doomy sound as opposed to the gothic side.

I just had to laugh. To me, gothic is last word I would use to describe Novembers Doom.

:lol: You noticed that too? hahah!
 
From: http://embark.to/tartareandesire

November's Doom - To Welcome The Fade
Dark Symphonies, 2002 7/10

As a band that influenced most, if not all, of today's biggest doom metal bands, Chicago's November's Doom can easily compete with your Opeth's and My Dying Bride's. Vocalist Paul Kuhr does more death metal vocals than the commonplace clean type, though he is fairly enunciated in his growls. "The Lifeless Silhouette" is probably his most angry performance to date, and session helper Nora O'Conner adds some mystique to numbers like "Last In A Day". The song "Broken" has one of those long Novembers Doom build-ups, weaving through bars of climbing intensity before climaxing in a crushing ending. The tempos of the album are slow, but not in the extreme, and many of the songs could be a musical extention of their last full-length "The Knowing". With Neil Kernon behind the dials, the band was able to capture a very clean finished product. My only complaint with his work is the dull snare sound, though that might be due to the playing of the instrument as much as his production. Kernon even appears as a player on this album. Though the band has gone through a little bit of a line-up change, they remain the Western Hemisphere's heavyweight doom metal champions with "To Welcome The Fade." FAVORITE TRACKS: "The Spirit Seed", "Lost In A Day".
 
Originally posted by ShadowLioness
That was better:) Though the mentioning of or the comparison to MDB seems to be a mainstay in almost every review, at least the "G" word wasn't uttered this time:lol: Thumbs up for his favorite song picks too..."The Spirit Seed" is one of mine as well:D

Somehow I doubt we'll ever beat the comparisons.....
 
From: LotFP zine

NOVEMBERS DOOM To Welcome the Fade
10- 54:56 Dark Symphonies
Melodic death/doom. If you’ve read the interview first, you’ll notice I said I didn’t hear the song differentiation as on the past album. Ignore that. I did the interview a week after having the album, and another month and some close listening has opened up this album’s true spirit to me, and it is undoubtedly the most complete, and most meaningful Novembers Doom album to date, filled with distinct songs. As for the usual comparisons this band gets, they are definitely all out the window as this sounds nothing like MY DYING BRIDE, ANATHEMA, or PARADISE LOST, old or new, they are a million miles away from being anything resembling MOONSPELL, although can’t deny a song or two sounds like KATATONIA (Lost in a Day, most notably) might if they were a death metal band these days and I guess any band that uses plenty of acoustic guitars along with their heaviness is going to get OPETH comparisons but you’d really have to stretch it to go there. Happy, Paul? Anyway. The basic style is a slower, melodic style with great thick doom guitar work with flourishes of acoustic guitars and more airy passages. Within My Flesh is just trudging, painful doom, and also has the key to the inspiration behind the album’s lyrics. I learned off the record what it’s about, and while I can’t blame the band for not wanting the real story out in public (mainly because the metal scene is full of morons who listen to too much extreme metal and take great joy in pain and suffering and don’t take the time to distinguish between reality and bullshit metal lyrics), the general idea shouldn’t be too difficult to guess and this song spells it out most clearly I think. Probably the most gutwrenching of the songs on offer, with the lack of melody in contrast to the sorrowing acoustic intro (and the rest of the album, actually) just crushing. That goes into If Forever, a more acoustic type song with keyboard backdrop where the vocals are entirely cleanly sung, which may be a first for the band. If Forever going into The Spirit Seed going into Torn right in the middle of the album probably had me questioning song identity to begin with, because If Forever ends with acoustic guitar work, Spirit Seed opens with it, the last verse of Spirit Seed has the female vocals, and Torn opens with plenty of female vocals so if one isn’t paying attention the songs there will blend a bit while the track counter keeps advancing. Other than that, rock solid in playing (especially the cleaner stuff, no guitar squeaking all over the place, and you have no idea how long I sat around trying to figure out what was ‘missing.’ Vocally the primary style is still the big throaty growl, which I like more than most because it sounds natural and not a ‘fake’ death voice. It’s broken up by clean singing, spoken bits, and then some female vocals here and there, which frankly don’t seem to match the atmosphere of the rest of the album, being a bit to bright and cheery sounding, and whenever the female vocals come in it’s kind of jarring. Maybe that’s what they went for, I don’t know, but something a bit more low key would have been called for? So it’s probably not surprising that with Neil Kernon producing this one that the sound quality is the richest the band has ever had, and the return of Travis Smith’s artwork is suitably (and intentionally) painful on the eyes. Both sound and artwork completely complement the album itself and present the correct environment for the album to be effective. Bottom line is the album has real meaning, and is really good. No, it’s not a happy album, nor could it be, really. No excuse for you not to have it., as it’s far more real, and far better than most, metal released today. www.novembersdoom.com
 
Originally posted by NvmbrsDoom5
Someone out there please review us and make mention of the early Pyogenesis influence, just to make me happy, please? LOL

Didn't they go "pop" or something?
 
IMO, Novembers Doom doesn't sound like MDB, Anathema or Paradie Lost, but I have always lumped them in the same genre as those bands along with Katatonia and Opeth.

I might have to investigate Pyogenisis further. Hmmmmm......
 
OK, I listened to 'TO Welcome the Fade' for the first time last night. WOW! Great job guys. After one listen, my favorite tracks are #3, #9, #10. Sorry, but I don't know names yet. I'm at work and can't remember them, but i remember what number they were. Anyway, keep up the good work, and for God's sake, come to Houston
 
I like alot of those bands as well, actually *shrug*

Ah well, everyone's got an opinion. I just still can't get over how we constantly get compared to MDB and Anathema. Surprises me still that people don't pick up on our more obvious influences. For the record, I own two Anathema cds (more recent ones). I do a pretty good job of supposedly ripping them off I guess, considering I don't hardly listen to them haha. Someone out there please review us and make mention of the early Pyogenesis influence, just to make me happy, please? LOL
 
Dreamlord, if you are interested in hearing the old Pyogenesis stuff, I would suggest anything from the first self-titled album up to TwinAleBlood (which is pretty hard to find....thanks for finding that for me, Eric!) Warning- they have a different approach to their sound. Gradually they started adding these poppier elements into their sound, until finally by the late 90s they becamse a straight up pop band. If you're open-minded, you should give the early stuff a listen. Their recent cds, like the one Eric mentioned, are total pop, so beware anything that came out by them after, say, 1996.
And yeah, I dont really get the whole MDB, Anathema, Paradise Lost thing. Here's the funniest part of that whole comparison.....when 'Amid its Hallowed Mirth' came out in '95, it got compared to those three bands. And now, people compare our newest stuff to them as well.....except anyone who has heard our first and our newest cds will know that they sound ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ALIKE! How is it that we have changed our sound and writing styles so drastically, and yet, we still sound "just like the british big 3"?
And, should I even bother to mention that those 3 bands sound pretty different from one another as well? They may fit generally into the same genre, as do we, but I think each one has their own identifying sound. And I would like to think that we are getting there as well. Apparently others don't agree. Oh well, c'est la vie.....
 
...Was that a good review, or a bad review? That was a very confusing album review, I must say. Lots of contradictions.

And though thankfully he doesn't seem to quite agree with our constantly being compared to MDB, just the fact that he went into listening to it expecting to hear a similarity because he's "often seen them compared to My Dying Bride..." just proves my theory that alot of people have a tendency to let themselves be too influenced by what they read first and not really listening to it with an open mind. Hence, a big problem I have with alot of reviews. Well, I guess it's got its upsides and downsides *sigh*

And I love that on one hand, we have people who say that we're so doomy and slow, etc., and then we have others who say we're not nearly slow enough and that we don't sound like real doom (Gothic? I guess my definition of Gothic differs from others, heh). Ah well, it's impossible to please everyone.
 
HAHAHA

I wish I could start threads in other people's names.

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