Drum Fills

[Erkan]

DIRK IS THE FUCKING MAN, HOLY SHIT - Stabbing the Drama has some of the most awesome drumming I've ever heard on a melodeath album (and it doesn't hurt that the mix is so painfully good as well )

He's good, no doubt about it. Don't know if he has interesting fill ins though? The only record I've listened to with his playing is Sybreed - Antares. Soilwork isn't my cup of tea so I've only heard some random songs from here and there.

 

[Metaltastic]

I dunno, you're the drummer, not me - I'm easily impressed

 

[digitaldeath]

Yes, all of these drummers are good and they all excel in different areas. I must say that fills are certainly one of my weak areas as a drummer and something I've been working on, now that I've got fast double-bass nailed!

 

[Erkan]

Wish I could nail fast double bass :S

 

[digitaldeath]

Wish I could nail fast double bass :S

For me, it was a matter of finding the optimal seating position, leg position (my legs are usually at an angle of around 120 degrees from my seated position) and a lot of practice to a metronome. Start slow, like 120BPM, work each leg individually, then split 8ths between your two legs. Then 16ths etc. Gradually increase the tempo every week or so (depends how much practice you put in).
Funny thing is that now I can do it properly, I find myself using fast double bass a lot less when writing - it's over-rated and over used. If it suits the music then yes I'll do it, but doing it for the sake of it is pointless too. I'm not into the whole Meshuggah style, so I never really practiced that kinda stuff.
In summary, as Raymond from Fear Factory once told me "The three most important things: practice, practice, practice!"

 

[TheDude]

I dont know any really educated and accomplished drummers that think much of anything of the guy honestly. Its just mostly guitarists and huge fans of mastodon that think he is the shit. He's great for the band but other than that i just dont get it...

Tomas Haake of Meshuggah likes him. Is he educated and accomplished?

 

[digitaldeath]

Tomas Haake of Meshuggah likes him. Is he educated and accomplished?

Guys, can we not descend into a "x drummer is better than y drummer" discussion? The OP was asking about fills.

 

[TheDude]

Just joking. I learned to program fills by listening to music. When I heard something interesting fill wise, I'd try to program it. Simple as that.

 

[Youpimatin]

Dirk Verbeuren is from Scarve !! Don't forget that and they come from my city...

 

[digitaldeath]

As a drummer, I find that I'm inspired by European drummers more than anything, they just seem to have a more 'organic' feel to their grooves, especially drummers from Sweden it seems!
But as others suggested, I wouldn't confine myself to metal. A lot of metal drumming seems to be focused on speed, where as other genres might allow you to hear and analyse fills much better, simply because they might be slower.

 

[Erkan]

For me, it was a matter of finding the optimal seating position, leg position (my legs are usually at an angle of around 120 degrees from my seated position) and a lot of practice to a metronome. Start slow, like 120BPM, work each leg individually, then split 8ths between your two legs. Then 16ths etc. Gradually increase the tempo every week or so (depends how much practice you put in).
Funny thing is that now I can do it properly, I find myself using fast double bass a lot less when writing - it's over-rated and over used. If it suits the music then yes I'll do it, but doing it for the sake of it is pointless too. I'm not into the whole Meshuggah style, so I never really practiced that kinda stuff.
In summary, as Raymond from Fear Factory once told me "The three most important things: practice, practice, practice!"

Not that we're on topic here but... anyway

Well, fast double bass is really unmotivating for me, mainly because my left leg/foot is much more controlled than my right, even though I'm right handed/footed. It's been like that for years... my right foot is GREAT at playing burst things, like triple strokes, while my left isn't, but my left can keep a high tempo 8th strokes very nicely while my right can't. Great shit huh?

That's why the guitar is kinda more appealing to me right now... don't know if I'll ever get that "twitch" reaction out of my right leg.

 

[CatharsisStudios]

DIRK IS THE FUCKING MAN, HOLY SHIT - Stabbing the Drama has some of the most awesome drumming I've ever heard on a melodeath album (and it doesn't hurt that the mix is so painfully good as well )

its good drumming but. soilwork died honestly when they lost henry ranta jesus dude. what a drummer. listen to his fills.

 

[Djabthrash]

KEVIN TALLEY FTW !!!

 

[beyond dead]

Byron McMackin of pennywise he didn't need double bass!

 

[roy22341]

Danny Carey.

 

[Djabthrash]

If we speak drum fills in general, i have a feeling that whereas Kolias & Roddy are awesome in extreme metal, they always do the same kind of hyperfast toms roll drum fills, and to me the best drummer (including feels) i've heard in an extreme band is KEvin Talley, because he's having a "rock_ish" kinda approach of his drums parts, using diverse influences such as Igor Cavalera and Vinnie Paul (awesome drummers to me) (and sometimes very simple fills a la Joey QOTSA or Dave Grohl), and not only the Pete Sandoval (which is awesome too) kind of stuff.
You should check out his drums lessons videos seriously.

I have a feeling that Gojira's Mario drumming is very much Pete Sandoval meets Igor Cavalera like, and it rocks also.

 

[Djabthrash]

Byron McMackin of pennywise he didn't need double bass!

agreed

though i don't see why you're mentioning the double bass thing here... (he's using a double pedal...)

 

[AeternusEternus]

My favorite fills for extreme music come inspired by Katatonia and Dream Theater. I like a good, clean drum fill. Cleanliness and consistency in my drums do wonders for the way that people perceive my music.

 

[PortionThief]

Awesome. A lot of great drummers I've never even heard of. I gotta say though Dailor, VerBueren, and Talley bored the hell outta me.

Gene Hoglan man.....

Keep em' coming if you've got more!

 

[Djabthrash]

I gotta say though (...) Talley bored the hell outta me.

What did you check (band/album/videos...) ?