Dude. Fuck Sonar.

I'm just tired of the stupid minor shit it always seems to do. I just reformatted my drive and reinstalled windows xp, all my drivers are up to date as fuck, I installed all the patches (Sonar 7) and still it decides to crash at least once a day. It also randomly (and way too often) prevents playback between takes saying that the current audio format isn't supported or that the audio hardware may be in use, when nothing has been changed and no other programs are running. I then have to restart the program to get it to play back any audio. Then there's the random popping and clicking that occurs sometimes, even with my CPU meter at only 30% and regardless of where I set my buffer settings.

I've been a loyal registered Sonar customer since version 1, and have always had these small irritating problems in some form or another, regardless of what hardware I'd been using. Nothing majorly catastrophic, but nothing that could be called stable either. Plus their customer service fucking sucks. They took a fucking week to answer a support question I had one time and all they could tell me was to make sure my drivers were up to date. :bah:

If Reaper can do everything Sonar does for $40, and is shit tons more stable, it's really pointless to stay with Sonar. I was going to wait until I finished my current project to make the switch but now I don't think I can wait that long. I'm tired of getting ready to lay down a vocal and instead of recording being forced to restart the fucking program and load the project up again. I'll be transferring everything over to Reaper to finish the vocals, and I may even import all of the instrument tracks to mix it in Reaper as well.
 
I love Sonar, and never had a single crash from 7-8.5 on either XP or W7 (32 & 64bit). What's the issue everyone else has with it? I mean, besides crashing (which could be caused elsewhere).
 
Long time Sonar user and have never had any more or less stability problems than with other DAWs that I've tried. But like most things in life - it's all in how things work for each individual. While I'll admit that for me it was purchasing my V-Studio 100 and how it improved my work flow with it's tight integration to Sonar that sealed the deal for - like all software it either works for you or it doesn't.

DAWs are like women - some you go out on a date and wake up the next morning wondering if you should gnaw your arm off instead of waking her up, while others you end up spending the rest of your life with because the fit is just right. C'est la vie!

As always your mileage may vary.
 
Jind said:
Long time Sonar user and have never had any more or less stability problems than with other DAWs that I've tried. But like most things in life - it's all in how things work for each individual. While I'll admit that for me it was purchasing my V-Studio 100 and how it improved my work flow with it's tight integration to Sonar that sealed the deal for - like all software it either works for you or it doesn't.

DAWs are like women - some you go out on a date and wake up the next morning wondering if you should gnaw your arm off instead of waking her up, while others you end up spending the rest of your life with because the fit is just right. C'est la vie!

As always your mileage may vary.
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Ditto. Plus I'm so used to the interface other ones seem weird. I tried Reaper and was just so confused. It is far more efficient with drum editing though (besides lacking a BD function, which Adam has now implemented).

Sonar does sometimes do this weird thing for me where it starts 'playing' but not actually playing, and then you can't stop or start playback. Saving still works though, so just save and restart and 30 secs later you're back up.
 
Switch to Reaper right away and keep using the evaluation version until you get the money. Every DAW I´ve used I was impressed at first by some features and, as time went by, the annoying things started to show up. With Reaper, instead of finding annoyances, I keep finding amazing things. I like the program more each day.
 
I've been messing around with it for a bit now, and I keep finding things that I always wished Sonar had. I actually physically shook my head a couple times in disbelief when I discovered a few of the features that are just beyond awesome. There's still a bunch of things I'll need to get used to, and setting up the FX sends took a bit of trial and error, but I already have everything I need to track vocals imported and ready to go, complete with FX and stuff. The Sonar to Reaper PDF guide is awesome, and I watched a Reaper overview video a few weeks ago that helped me get started.

Just fucking around for a bit I think I've already touched on most of the major things I normally do in Sonar, but I need to learn how to do manual editing to clean up some vocal takes. I recall there being a tutorial around here on how to slip edit drums in reaper that should get me going. Gonna go search that real quick. So far I'm loving this thing.
 
I've been a long time Sonar user/supporter for many years but I'm slowly migrating to Reaper. I'm still using Sonar currently but that's only because I'm very familiar with the interface.

I'm also getting sick of the snobby ass people on their forums. Reminds me why I quit using N-Track in the late 90's.

I think the paid upgrade to the 8.5 release was a fucking joke. Talk about screwing over your valued customers.
 
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