You know disagreements arguements and all that shit. Do you do a majority or do you elect a dictator? Do you just accept that people are gonna be pissed off from time to time?
Dudes in bands how do you take care of BS?
- Thread starter Loren Littlejohn
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Glenn Fricker
Very Metal &Very Bad News
botus99
Microphone Assassin
find a compromise between all members or break up. If you or another member isn't happy, then someone's gonna leave... which usually isn't the greatest of conveniences
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
Honestly, bands don't work as a democracy, at least in my experience, and in everyone I've spoken to on the subjects experience.
When everyones got an 'equal' vote, things tend to end up as fucked as the USA. I've found that in a band, a benevolent dictatorship tends to work best.
When everyones got an 'equal' vote, things tend to end up as fucked as the USA. I've found that in a band, a benevolent dictatorship tends to work best.
AudioPhile777
Mathew Cohen
Yep, if you have more than one leader... or if everyone gets equal say, then nothing gets done...
...IME/O...
...so a swift/firm, "This is how its going to be..." is what needs to occur and they'll either take it or leave it...
and if you started the band, you have the right to say that... if not... i'd still do it anyway, especially if someone is slacking/slowing the machine and you guys arent getting anywhere...
...IME/O...
...so a swift/firm, "This is how its going to be..." is what needs to occur and they'll either take it or leave it...
and if you started the band, you have the right to say that... if not... i'd still do it anyway, especially if someone is slacking/slowing the machine and you guys arent getting anywhere...
deanbailey
O.C.D Member
hmm..In my experience arrange a band meeting and discuss it. There's no other mature way to do it. The members that don't realize it's for the good of the band and don't take it serious enough, will be the ones you need replacing (which sucks because they might be good musicians)
My band's been like that for half a year, and what i did was write down (in bullet point) the problem areas or anything needing to be discussed...
afterwards everybody's moods got lifted and wanted to "keep the ball rolling"
anyway...might be different for other bands though.
My band's been like that for half a year, and what i did was write down (in bullet point) the problem areas or anything needing to be discussed...
afterwards everybody's moods got lifted and wanted to "keep the ball rolling"
anyway...might be different for other bands though.
Noumenon
Obsidian Productions
See most of the time I suck it up and get over it who cares right? But obviously you are working with different personallities so there is going to be those who can't seem to bury the hatchet.
For some sick reason I love to piss those types off though
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I agree a dictator is the best I have been talking with my friend who is doing music down in Nashville and he says he will never be in a Democracy based band again.
For some sick reason I love to piss those types off though
.I agree a dictator is the best I have been talking with my friend who is doing music down in Nashville and he says he will never be in a Democracy based band again.
Noumenon
Obsidian Productions
Well, don't know if we're a democracy band since it's just two of us who's doing work outside the rehearsal room.
-Gavin-
Gavornator
In my band, the keyboard/vocalist and I are the founding members, write the music and such so while everyone gets a say so, we're pretty much the ones who say "that's awesome" or "that's baws."
The other 2 respect that and i believe it helps us cause when they contribute something, it's usually something top class cause they know that if it's arse we'll not use it.
So by all means, have an open forum, discuss stuff but you WILL need someone to take charge and point out the shite.
If/when you're signed, this is the producer and/or manager's job. Until then, one of you need to have the baws to tell your members when they're fucking up.
It makes for a healthier band.
The other 2 respect that and i believe it helps us cause when they contribute something, it's usually something top class cause they know that if it's arse we'll not use it.
So by all means, have an open forum, discuss stuff but you WILL need someone to take charge and point out the shite.
If/when you're signed, this is the producer and/or manager's job. Until then, one of you need to have the baws to tell your members when they're fucking up.
It makes for a healthier band.
smy1
Member
Dictatorship all the way. I always did it the way Gavin described it. In my old band, *if* someone had something to contribute, they were always welcome, but if I didn't like it, I'd tell them I didn't like it. I'd also only bring in stuff that I was 90% certain they would like, so rarely ever would they not dig it. Still didn't help the singer's ego and some years and clashes later I was sick of them. So in my current electro project, I just hired the musicians and now tell them what to play without having much influence on it at all
2dark
guitars must be loud
we do stuff in some sort of democratic way.
but in some cases we're we don't get near any result the "older" members (which includes me ) have the last vote on things and since we know each
other for quite a long time we know how to deal with things and the "newer" member have to follow.
but in some cases we're we don't get near any result the "older" members (which includes me
) have the last vote on things and since we know eachother for quite a long time we know how to deal with things and the "newer" member have to follow.
-Gavin-
Gavornator
Dictatorship all the way. I always did it the way Gavin described it. In my old band, *if* someone had something to contribute, they were always welcome, but if I didn't like it, I'd tell them I didn't like it. I'd also only bring in stuff that I was 90% certain they would like, so rarely ever would they not dig it. Still didn't help the singer's ego and some years and clashes later I was sick of them. So in my current electro project, I just hired the musicians and now tell them what to play without having much influence on it at all
See, my singer is also our keyboard player and so with us, the music is imnportant, the vox are like an afterthought. Hahaha
smy1
Member
This only works for "non-commercially oriented music" though. Usually the vocals are the most important part of any music ...
-Gavin-
Gavornator
James-Doolan
Member
Amen thats how we do it in our band me and the other guitarist write and decide on all music and our word is final if any of the other guys wrote stuff we would have a look at and see if it was to our liking if not
it would not make the cut.This system seems to work fine for us. It might be different if 1 guy decided everything.
scorpio01169
Member
the problem with bands that work in a monarchy....is when any of the other members are unhappy, the one or two that run things dont care and they think their opinions only matter. my band the guitar player and i write the music and our singer writes the lyric.....and well our drummer sits in the corner contemplating on which chick he's gonna bone that night. but as far as one or two people making the final decision that doesn't work for us.
deanbailey
O.C.D Member
Being in a band is like having a girlfriend (or boyfriend??)...
-When you're tired of being with the band you say "things aren't the same anymore"
-When you're playing in a side project and the band doesn't agree you say "i just want to try new things with different people"
-If the band is in a shit hole you say "i think we should see other people/members"
-playing a show is the sex...if you're not getting any, find and fix the problem or get a new girlfriend.
-If your 'gear' isn't big enough to impress, it's not always a bad thing, some guys do well with smaller sized gear
PS. -If you play a show and no one 'came' you're not interesting enough
-When you're tired of being with the band you say "things aren't the same anymore"
-When you're playing in a side project and the band doesn't agree you say "i just want to try new things with different people"
-If the band is in a shit hole you say "i think we should see other people/members"
-playing a show is the sex...if you're not getting any, find and fix the problem or get a new girlfriend.
-If your 'gear' isn't big enough to impress, it's not always a bad thing, some guys do well with smaller sized gear
PS. -If you play a show and no one 'came' you're not interesting enough
Noumenon
Obsidian Productions
Deus.exe
BBQ!!!
Band dictator here, but more Castro than Stalin.
I write 80% of the music, I did the logo / previous artwork and I have the vision. In this respect I think my dictatorship is justified.
I write 80% of the music, I did the logo / previous artwork and I have the vision. In this respect I think my dictatorship is justified.
