ENGL Savage

[Noumenon]

Don't know if you listened to the clip I posted in my old thread "Send Me An ENGL", but here is the same clip. Just my 2 tracks of the Savage (rhythm, clean and lead), no bass. I don't really like the sound, might be too much gain. I used the darkane setting that their guitarist posted, but with a TS-9 in front (9, 11, 12). Hints please. Just a demo so far.

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PS. Nevermind the sloppy playing, it's just a quick demo for my new project.

 

[JeffTD]

Too much gain/top end I'd say, cool voicing to it tho!

 

[Soundlurker]

+1

There is some nasty fizzyness about it, however.

 

[Noumenon]

yeah. there is this sharpness to it, it could be the gain or the rough/smooth switch. I'm gonna try the gain first since I like the rough stuff :O

I'll keep you posted.

 

[Frankzappa]

Don't know if you listened to the clip I posted in my old thread "Send Me An ENGL", but here is the same clip. Just my 2 tracks of the Savage (rhythm, clean and lead), no bass. I don't really like the sound, might be too much gain. I used the darkane setting that their guitarist posted, but with a TS-9 in front (9, 11, 12). Hints please. Just a demo so far.

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PS. Nevermind the sloppy playing, it's just a quick demo for my new project.

Sounds like something is broken. The savage has an input gain knob on every channel. Sounds like you have too much input gain, try lowering it....alot.
Edit: Btw I saw that you have a pedal in front of it, that might be it. Just remove the pedal, the ENGL is not a rectifier, It doesn't need any pedals to sound good.

 

[Djabthrash]

Sounds like something is broken. The savage has an input gain knob on every channel. Sounds like you have too much input gain, try lowering it....alot.
Edit: Btw I saw that you have a pedal in front of it, that might be it. Just remove the pedal, the ENGL is not a rectifier, It doesn't need any pedals to sound good.

+1: less gain + no pedal

 

[Noumenon]

Removed the pedal and backed down on both gain-stages on ch4. Stage 1: from max to 12.00, Stage 2: from 12.00 to 10.00.
Also added bass. (direct and through the engl.)
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[::XeS::]

There is some fizzyness in the top end that I don't like very much.
I own a savage (60W) and I hear some fizzy too...I use the hi range suppressor at 0 or a little more to cut some hi-end.

 

[Frankzappa]

Definetly sounds better but still there is something that is not right. Are you using some ultra-high-gain pickups or something. There is an overload every time you hit the strings hard. Maybe there is something wrong with it, I't shouldn't happen when the input gain is 12 o clock. Post your settings of the ENGL please.

 

[Noumenon]

The usual way, FX send -> GH's Impulses.

 

[Noumenon]

EMG 707. Savage seetings: ch4, gain 1 12.00, lead boost off, gain 2 10.30, contour on, bass 9.30, mid 14.00, high 11.00, hi balance 12.00, rough/smooth off. The rest is the power section which is bypassed.

 

[::XeS::]

Uhm....How does hi-balance work? My "hi-range suppressor":the more I set it, the more mid/hi I get.

 

[Ermz]

Link doesn't work atm. It's odd, I was just hoping to find some Savage samples on here and lo and behold you made this thread!

 

[Noumenon]

My mac is down. fix it when i get. home

 

[Noumenon]

Actually I'm using Waves IR-L, 100 wet, but direct on, if direct is off the sound is veeery bassy/muddy and low.

 

[Noumenon]

Well, the thing is, if I use revalver mkii I get the same sound as IR-L with 100% wet and direct on.
Direct Off
Direct On

Only processing is C4 and HP 80hz, LP 13kHz. Then comp+lim on the masterbuss.

I just did a test with SpaceDesigner, same thing there. So it's not the impulse part, rather the amp-side of the chain.

 

[Noumenon]

Meh, just tested one thing. I put the lead gain on 12.00 and backed down crunch 2 gain to zero, then raised it until I got a decent sound, I've got it at 9.00 now. I read in the manual that crunch 2 gain is actually input sensitivity, that took away some of the harshness. Didn't have time to record it though, have to sleep now. But I'll re-record it all tomorrow.

So, I guess that my EMGs where a bit to hot, considering that the settings I used was "made" for guitars with passive pickups.

 

[Frankzappa]

So, I guess that my EMGs where a bit to hot, considering that the settings I used was "made" for guitars with passive pickups.

Dude! You even had a tubescreamer in front of it I'm suspecting that you should pull the input gain down even more, and pull the lead gain up!
Can you post the guitar without impulses as well? If you have the equipment, can you make a reamp track of the guitar without the ENGL? I have an ENGL in the studio but I don't have reamping gear, I wan't to try something

 

[Noumenon]

I can give you the engl track with no impulse and the di-track.

 

[Noumenon]

Here's the ENGL & Direct track (SD2-files, might have to convert them): Guitar 1

And here's the same one with impulse and in the full mix: 2007-10-24