Evil Drums SDX> four Cymbal slots only!?
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drew_drummer
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yeah, i could furthermore use X-drums but that's not the general idea here.
i was more lookig for one single library that gives a great sound in all,
something that does sound more "coherent" and not thrown together from different libraries, samples etc.
i was more lookig for one single library that gives a great sound in all,
something that does sound more "coherent" and not thrown together from different libraries, samples etc.
i hear what your sayin.. when i use evil drums i tend to just x-drum in cymbals from the same studio for that exact reason.. the library IS pretty extensive and it certainly has great sound..
are there any other SDX on your shortlist??
Wrecknine
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There should be 12 cymbals. 2 crashes for every kit, though one may be a china. No splashes that I know of.
@MIAnn
i have the NY SDX and the metal foundry.
i love the kicks, snares and toms from NY but mixing it with th e metal foundry does just not sound right,
i can hear every single kit piece but not a complete drumset
i also owned C&V, it was cool but ihad no real use for it.
the new ROOTS thing is not really my thing and the music city SDX, not sure if it is suitable for metal.
i recently bought metal machine, it's great for demos and jamming but it's also a bit limited, and i do not really like the cymbals on this.
@Wrecknine
i wish there was an extensive video review of this, i can't find any real info on the web
i have the NY SDX and the metal foundry.
i love the kicks, snares and toms from NY but mixing it with th e metal foundry does just not sound right,
i can hear every single kit piece but not a complete drumset
i also owned C&V, it was cool but ihad no real use for it.
the new ROOTS thing is not really my thing and the music city SDX, not sure if it is suitable for metal.
i recently bought metal machine, it's great for demos and jamming but it's also a bit limited, and i do not really like the cymbals on this.
@Wrecknine
i wish there was an extensive video review of this, i can't find any real info on the web
drew_drummer
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No. I meant you should be able to use X-Drums to load different cymbals in the same SDX - if you can't, then that indeed is fucking shite.
Wrecknine
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https://www.platinumsamples.com/Downloads/Joe Barresi Evil Drums Manual.pdf
That's the manual for the BFD version which was ported for Superior. It has details of all the kit pieces. I seem to remember something about downloadable updates for registered users. Some more cymbal articulations maybe? I hope someone helps you soon.
That's the manual for the BFD version which was ported for Superior. It has details of all the kit pieces. I seem to remember something about downloadable updates for registered users. Some more cymbal articulations maybe? I hope someone helps you soon.
alan1990
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U can X-drum in more I specifically remember Jeff saying he had to load chinas in like this back in some drum programing thread
it does work but it does not sound good, that's the problem here^^
i often think that libraries that are made to represent a complete
kit do not sound like a kit, then adding "external" kit pieces makes
it only worse.
of course, it would be another story if the evil drums comes with more cymbals that can be added as X-drum, this could actually work, but i doubt that.
@Wrecknine
i'll check it out, thanks!
@alan1990
of course i can use Xdrums but it does not sound right if the kit pieces are from external SDX packs. example: if i buy the evil drums SDX and then add the missing china from the metal foundry...i am 100% sure that it will not sound right as it was recorded with different gear, in another studio/room etc.
i trried to create a custom kit using different toontrack libraries and failed completely, NY has great sounding drums, metal foundry has some sweet cymbals, but putting them together sounds like shit
Wrecknine
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If I'm right about the 12 crashes, you could make a kit with all 12 at once. Unlike the huge metal Toontrack kits, these would all be panned one of 2 positions so they may sound "on top" of one another. Superior won't let you pan individual cymbals but it preserves the realism that way. As far as making pieces sound like they are in the same room, you'll still across this problem in Evil drums since they used two different rooms for different kits.
Can you really notice this in a dense metal mix though? A cheap fix could be muting the room channels and sending them all to the same impulse reverb to simulate them being in the same studio.
Can you really notice this in a dense metal mix though? A cheap fix could be muting the room channels and sending them all to the same impulse reverb to simulate them being in the same studio.
~BURNY~
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Soultrash, just to be sure you got this, nobody is talking about adding X-drums with sounds from another library, just X-drums slots with the actual Evil Drums library cymbals. And yes, some will probably overlap in the stereo field but you can cheat with the panning in the mixer and honesly, nobody will notice anyway.
I don't see what is the problem here.
I don't see what is the problem here.
@Wrecknine
seems like it would be possible to create a bigger kit that way but there must be something wrong about this, i mean
why did they not make a superior template that can load more than 4 cymbals simultaneously from jump.
i guess that a kit with 4 cymbals was sampled at first and that the rest was added afterwards.
i know i sound a bit whiny about this but i screwed up so much money buying different drum samplers and
expansions just to find out that there is always something about them
seems like it would be possible to create a bigger kit that way but there must be something wrong about this, i mean
why did they not make a superior template that can load more than 4 cymbals simultaneously from jump.
i guess that a kit with 4 cymbals was sampled at first and that the rest was added afterwards.
i know i sound a bit whiny about this but i screwed up so much money buying different drum samplers and
expansions just to find out that there is always something about them
it's not a problem, just do not understand why they did not make a superior template that can load more than 4 cymbals from jump.
drew_drummer
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~BURNY~
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It probably has something to do with the fact that it was initially developped for BFD then later ported to Superior.
Also, Joe Barresi is primarily a rock producer and he probably records stripped down kits most of the time.
