Female facial beauty

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i have seen images on the internet of transgender women with very feminine faces that are technically attractive, but I think the fetish itself, the preference that people who watch "shemale" porn have, is something quite different, somehow they're attracted by the idea of a man being made into a woman, which I suppose is freudian sounding. It's very different from looking for the prettiest female face.
 
nah dude the point is that this thread is based on the heterosexual male gaze view of cis women, and that "beauty" as an aesthetic is not only dependent on cultural upbringing (which has staggering implications of racism in western culture), but upon cis gender "normative" viewpoints

tldr: this thread is full of cis women to fulfill the cis het male gaze and it makes me ill

PS inb4 theres already an sjw thread

PPS the idea of attractiveness, especially in the context of trans women, as a sexual act only is toxic as shit bruh
 
nah dude the point is that this thread is based on the heterosexual male gaze view of cis women, and that "beauty" as an aesthetic is not only dependent on cultural upbringing (which has staggering implications of racism in western culture), but upon cis gender "normative" viewpoints

tldr: this thread is full of cis women to fulfill the cis het male gaze and it makes me ill

PS inb4 theres already an sjw thread

PPS the idea of attractiveness, especially in the context of trans women, as a sexual act only is toxic as shit bruh


"male gaze view?" which sociology journal sprouted that shit

I think you're confused and are just spouting random things you've heard. Nowhere in this thread have I written, beauty is a thing that can be measured universally across all cultures, with mutual agreement and nowhere have I written that the opposite is the case. I actually don't know and I don't care all that much either. I tend to think that beauty probably is very specific to culture though and I'll explain my reason for doing so. If I posted, and I have actually, a picture of a very attractive woman that was taken in say, the early to mid 80s, with those kind of panties on, the soft focus look etc, most men who see it now, wont think, uuuuhhh hot woman, hubba hubba, they'll think, hmmm 80s, then they'll estimate the woman's attractiveness. Most people I've tried to discuss this with are far too simpleminded to get it though. basically if beauty was universal your first thought would be, oooh attractive woman, the "primal instinct" would kick in. instead we are culturally indoctrinated and look for indicators telling us whether the woman is socially desirable, and the dated look confuses that.
 
Im at a loss to be more clear for you exactly what I mean. I mean, if the language is too much for you, feel free to ask me questions about what things mean, I have no opposition to explaining if you ask nicely.
 
I'm pretty well educated and I've read more than enough social science for anyone. What do you think about what I said?
 
I'm pretty well educated and I've read more than enough social science for anyone. What do you think about what I said?

At the risk of being redundant, the casual sexism in your post of women being viewing objects for sexual pleasure and the heteronormative ideology behind your belief in biological response to theoretical attractiveness are not just disagreeable to my sensibilities and beliefs but also to my constitution.
 
One of the reasons why I get pissed off with people like you is some of the experiences I've had. When I worked in an office, when I was about 16, the girls in the office had their own toilet, which I used as well because the men's was broken. Anyway, inside it was totally plastered with pictures of naked men. Also the girls used to giggle and discuss whether or not I was a virgin. I've had my ass grabbed by women in nightclubs (oh the HORROR! :p). Boo fucking hoo. I'm not saying "we're animals", it happens, that's actually the opposite of what my post says, but you seem to want to ignore that.
 
Also, i would never take anyone that used the terms "cis" or "cisgender" seriously. It's called regular people. Trannies and faggots are anomalies, you guys just need to fucking accept that shit and stop fucking bothering the rest of the world with your fucking play on words.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/378511/cis-ridiculous-christine-sisto

a little off subject, but i wouldn't be surprised if these same tools made a big deal out of one of the Republican candidates saying they're going to "beat" Hillary. Soon followed by the outlawing and banning of that phrase. :lol:


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call me mort clone

Ok, but that's really not something to be boasting about, mort clone.
 
i don't think YVW is a real account because she's doesn't come across as a girl in her posts but has said she is one in the introduction. women aren't as fiesty on forums as men.