First time posting a clip! Come tear it apart!

[Ice Man]

So, yeah...The talent around here is real intimidating, but you gotta learn some time, right?

It's short and simple. So, here it is:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=513318


A few things to mention:
-Snare sucks. Sounded better through monitors, for some reason.
-Guitars are a little mid-heavy and might be too boxy for some.
-It is really short.
-No bass guitar.
-Guitars lose sync slightly.


Other than that, gimme all criticism!

Regards,
Daniel

 

[Mark_Palangio]

Sounds like a modeler to me.

 

[KeithRT99]

i like it, the production could use some work, but music wise, its cool.

 

[Black neon bob]

This is a hard one to tear apart Daniel, since most of it's minor points are allready mentioned by yourself...
I would first do a more simpler part then this one, the technique is there, no doubt about it, but i would start out with something more basic, so you can start working on, and listening to each instrument or piece one by one.

Like you said, the snare.. i would say that most mixes that i really like, always contain a snare that really cuts through a mix.. i dont care if the bass drum is low rumble to fill up that low end, or cuts through as well.. for me, a good snare that cuts through and has a nice attack, is more important.

I would start looking at your snare... then the rest of the drumkit, since it could use some work, but overall that sounds pretty good, but the snare should be looked at properly, since that kind of ruins the mix for me.

What did you use btw?

A bass is mandatory as well, it completes a mix... but like you said, it's missing for now..

Nice riffs btw!

I like the attack around 0:12..

 

[everybody's x]

I like the mid-heaviness

Kill that snare sound and turn up the geetars man

 

[Nebulous]

Turn the guitars down and put a high shelf on the snare and guitars, they sound dull.

 

[Ice Man]

i like it, the production could use some work, but music wise, its cool.

Thanks for taking the time to check it out, man! Yeah, I feel ya on the production. I'm still learning, though. Maybe one day I'll at least half the production talent Bob has.

This is a hard one to tear apart Daniel, since most of it's minor points are allready mentioned by yourself...
I would first do a more simpler part then this one, the technique is there, no doubt about it, but i would start out with something more basic, so you can start working on, and listening to each instrument or piece one by one.

Like you said, the snare.. i would say that most mixes that i really like, always contain a snare that really cuts through a mix.. i dont care if the bass drum is low rumble to fill up that low end, or cuts through as well.. for me, a good snare that cuts through and has a nice attack, is more important.

I would start looking at your snare... then the rest of the drumkit, since it could use some work, but overall that sounds pretty good, but the snare should be looked at properly, since that kind of ruins the mix for me.

What did you use btw?

A bass is mandatory as well, it completes a mix... but like you said, it's missing for now..

Nice riffs btw!

I like the attack around 0:12..

Thanks for taking the time to reply at length! I know what you mean about simplifying things down to be able to dissect each sound easier. The snare ruins it for me, too, trust me. Haha. I might take a whack at it again later tonight if I get some time. Were the drums okay in terms of not sounded overly robotic? One thing I really hate about DFHS, is that I can never get a good tom sound. I've meandered around decent sounding snares and kicks, but toms drive me up a wall. Heh.

As for what I used: LTD MH-1000 (85 in the bridge) > Boss NS-2 > 5150II > 5150 cab (Yuck. This was one of the few decent tones I was able to capture in months of experimentation) > Firepod.

Thanks a ton for the insight and the critique, coming from a badass of your stature, that's awesome!

I like the mid-heaviness

Kill that snare sound and turn up the geetars man

Turn the guitars down and put a high shelf on the snare and guitars, they sound dull.

Uh, oh! Conflicting suggestions. I'll try both. Haha. Thanks for checking it out, fellas. I'll try to better the snare and brighten the guitars some.

 

[Black neon bob]

Were the drums okay in terms of not sounded overly robotic?

Nah, not at all really.. they sound real to me Daniel.

The whole idea is very cool, it will be great to hear riffs like these with even better production for sure..

Also, what host do you use? cubase? pro-tools?

Cheers.

 

[Torniojaws]

Uh, oh! Conflicting suggestions. I'll try both. Haha.

Everybody's x is a guitarist, and Nebulous is a drummer

That's what always happen to me. If I play something that sounds balanced to me, the drummers tell to put the guitars down, and vice versa, a guitarist will tell to put the drums down

 

[everybody's x]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder

 

[xmarcelx]

I find the snare ok but the guitars are a weird especially on the first riff! A bit dull!
Sounds very cool when the "break down" starts!

 

[Ice Man]

Nah, not at all really.. they sound real to me Daniel.

The whole idea is very cool, it will be great to hear riffs like these with even better production for sure..

Also, what host do you use? cubase? pro-tools?

Cheers.

All right, sweet. I kinda took your approach in terms of sitting down for what seems like hours messing with each little velocity. I haven't gotten to the point off setting hits of by 32nds or 64ths, or adding small tempo variances, but who knows, I might. Heh.

I use Cubase SX3. That and waves plug-ins. I think a little vintage warmer on the master drum and guitar busses, too.

Everybody's x is a guitarist, and Nebulous is a drummer

That's what always happen to me. If I play something that sounds balanced to me, the drummers tell to put the guitars down, and vice versa, a guitarist will tell to put the drums down

I know exactly what you mean. When my old went to the studio, each member was asking to be brought up louder. I mean, I play guitar primarily, but I still like hearing drums more. Hella confusing, for sure.

I find the snare ok but the guitars are a weird especially on the first riff! A bit dull!
Sounds very cool when the "break down" starts!

Thanks for checking it out, man. I'm going to have to work on everything a bit more now that I have a decent starting point. The source sound could have been better on guitar, but the 5150 cab seems so finicky in terms of not being overly fizzy. This was probably the best tone I've captured yet, and that isn't saying much, haha. Glad you like the heaviness!

 

[Soundlurker]

All right, sweet. I kinda took your approach in terms of sitting down for what seems like hours messing with each little velocity. I haven't gotten to the point off setting hits of by 32nds or 64ths, or adding small tempo variances, but who knows, I might. Heh.

It's not that hard to do this, just select the hits in the midi and use cubase to introduce "groove" and random velocities. I think it would be a good idea to try this as I find the drums in your clip a bit machine-like. Other than that, I pretty much agree with everyone else. Cool riffs