Full-length tips?

[UEAK]Clowd

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Hey all, next month I'm going to be doing my first full-length for this band. It seems like a pretty massive undertaking... I think I have a pretty good handle on everything I need to take care of and pay attention to and so on, but any tips and tricks from those who are more wise (especially from Andy..) would be nice to see?
 
Its easier to fix it earlier rather than later. That applies to everything. If it sounds shit, retune the drums or adjust the mics don't wait til later to fix it in the mix.

And record DI's if you want reamping done.
 
Try to find samples of professionally recorded raw drum pieces that you like, and then A/B your miced up signal to those. That way you'll spot what needs to be done, until you get the hang of it yourself. Though nowadays in metal, almost 90 % of the stuff has been triggered, except for cymbals (but I'm sure those days will come someday too :lol: ).
 
keep a note book and make notes of everything, and a little chart of what has/hasnt been done
 
Label your tracks, so you know what is what in a session, ie. no BD, kick, Bassdr etc. in different sessions. Use one label and stick to it. This will make it easier to navigate between tracks.

Try not to panic! Take it easy. :)
 
Masturbate vigorously for two weeks before tracking.
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Gets the blood pumping and will relax you.
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Good luck man, just don't lose your nerves when something doesn't work or takes longer than expected.

I started to record my bands debut album in March 2007 and boy has it been a ride since then! :lol: Still have to record vocals, acoustic guitars and some bass...
Ah well, as long as our album gets finished before the new Wintersun album I won't complain. :p
 
Oh yeah, now some real tips:

Do a PREPRODUCTION.
And I mean with ALL THE BANDMEMBERS!!!
Show them how much they suck, so they can practice and improve BEFORE TRACKING STARTS. :D

Always take a DI of guitars and bass so you can reamp later.

Make sure guitars and bass are intonated well.

Make a backup to another harddrive (preferably an external one) after each session.


All of the above has been learned the hard way except for the backup thing, which I did from the start. Came in handy when my HD crashed. ;)
 
Oh yeah, now some real tips:

Do a PREPRODUCTION.
And I mean with ALL THE BANDMEMBERS!!!
Show them how much they suck, so they can practice and improve BEFORE TRACKING STARTS. :D

Always take a DI of guitars and bass so you can reamp later.

Make sure guitars and bass are intonated well.

Make a backup to another harddrive (preferably an external one) after each session.


All of the above has been learned the hard way except for the backup thing, which I did from the start. Came in handy when my HD crashed. ;)

Make sure all the band members agree on drum speeds (BPM / Verse length etc)..
Make sure that the band are comfortable, but not TOO comfortable.

:) nothing you can't handle, so just enjoy the ride.
 
Yeah luckily I have recorded two songs with them before so they know the process and everything, and they are sending me all their basement demos so I can figure out problem areas and etc. Should be pretty good.
 
[UEAK]Clowd;7737359 said:
Yeah luckily I have recorded two songs with them before so they know the process and everything, and they are sending me all their basement demos so I can figure out problem areas and etc. Should be pretty good.

thats a good start.

Also, take decisions and if you feel and are "producer" of the band, don't try to satisfy everybody... go with your own ideas if you think it's what will sound better. it can be a about a technical matter of a song-writing wise matter.
 
Make sure they all play to a click. I know this has been said thousands of times, but it really makes a difference and I thought I should mention it again. Give them all headphones while tracking, with a submix of their instruments in there as well as the click, or just get them sat in the control room with the click going.

Also, when tracking give yourself as many options as possible for when you're in the mixing stage, take DI's, take preamp outs from the amps so you can use impulses if you need to (especially with Kazrog's Recabinet demo coming out next week). This applies to both guitars AND bass.

Drums wise, get as many mic's as you can in there, close mic everything, get loads of room mics in there as well, just generally give yourself every available option. The more different things/tones you can have access to while mixing, the better.

Apart from that, beat the band into giving their best performance, make them replay it till they get it right, and just have fun.