FUUUUUUCK FLOYD FUCKING ROSE BRIDGE FUUUCK

[Omega_Void]

Who needs that shit anyway. Both of my band's guitarists want trems just so they can do a dive in like one part of one song.

It's really not so fucking cool.

I'm with them. If that one part of that one song needs a divebomb, it needs a divebomb.

I haven't had a trem for about eight years, and I've got one song been on ice for a couple of years 'cos it needs a trem for one part. I want to use that song, but without a reverse divebomb in the necessary place it feels unfulfilled. Nothing else works right.

Shit like that really matters and if you dismiss it, it's the thin end of the wedge I tell you!

 

[JMarz]

L2fucking trem.

 

[motomoto]

I never ever use a floyd.... but i love the feel on my right hand when i palm mute

 

[Harry Hughes]

FWIW, the biggest issue anyone should take up with a floating trem is how rubbery and dead they make strings feel

The way you wrote that makes it sound as if it's the universal truth or something.
I could be wayyy off base here, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say guys like Satch and Vai who have been rocking floating trems before you were even born tend to just think the strings feel like.......normal strings that feel nice under their fingers, not rubbery and dead.

 

[xFkx]

Love the concept and possibilities, but damn do I ever hate changing strings and setting-up the damn thing. I'm floydless and happy for the last 5 years.

 

[midget donkeys]

I was really being clear with my last post. I use the tremolo-no in either fully locked mode or the deep "c" mode. Which is dive bomb only mode. It is like using a tremstopper as Marcus suggested.

I added an extra spring and screwed down the claw further than necassary too. That way when I dive the trem it snaps back hard and hits the deep "c" block which acts as a positive stop.

Whenever I have had a trem set so it can dive and raise pitch I have always had problems landing it back perfectly in tune.

But if a guy is sick of trems he can always completely block the thing. I would say I keep mine locked in place 95% of the time.

 

[SwambA]

Use a block under the back of the Floyd that keeps it level or a tremolo-no to lock it in place. Change the strings one at a time and tune each string as you go.

 

[grywolf627]

Love my free floating trems. The original Ibanez Edge is the best. I don't understand the point of a trem-stop. What's the point of a free floating trem if it's not free floating. No more bar flicking, pull ups, or vibrato? No thanks.

 

[guitarguru777]

If any type of floyd style trem is not working properly then its set up wrong! The entire point of the system and why they have been popular for 20 years is that when they are set up properly they feel just like a hard tail and they always return to 100% IN TUNE! If you have issues with strings going flat after diving then its not set up right! Same goes for is when you pull UP it goes sharp, It means your spring tension is not balanced between the strings and the springs in the back of the trem.

Shit I have a Jackson with a wilkinson that I can pull UP or push DOWN without a fucking locking nut and I have ZERO issues with it. It always comes back to perfect tune due to the nice slippery graphite nut.

If you cant keep a floyd in tune then have it set up by someone who knows WTF they are doing.

 

[SwambA]

With a tremolo-no you can use it in free state, so you can bar flicker, pull up and vibrato, just like a normal Floyd. Use it in dive only, no pull up mode, so its more like a standard Fender, allowing for alt tuning's without having to re-setup your Floyd. And full lock mode so it reacts just like a hardtail, giving you the best of all worlds.

 

[JeffTD]

The way you wrote that makes it sound as if it's the universal truth or something.
I could be wayyy off base here, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say guys like Satch and Vai who have been rocking floating trems before you were even born tend to just think the strings feel like.......normal strings that feel nice under their fingers, not rubbery and dead.

...and hardtails probably feel bright and twangy and overly stiff to them - regardless of which side of the fence you're on, they feel different. Of course I'm going to represent the side of the fence I'm on like it's the better way... if I half assed something an opinion petty as that, how would anyone take me seriously at all?

 

[MarcusGHedwig]

Love my free floating trems. The original Ibanez Edge is the best. I don't understand the point of a trem-stop. What's the point of a free floating trem if it's not free floating. No more bar flicking, pull ups, or vibrato? No thanks.

The point of a trem stop for me is tuning stability (especially while palm muting, I know it's possible to develop the technique to avoid it, but...too much effort ) and string feel as Jeff mentioned (since I tighten the claw screws to firmly pull the trem block against the trem stop). Pull-ups have zero appeal to me, vibrato should be done with one's left hand (not like I need to tell you this of course And you can still dip the trem anyway), and while flutter is pretty sweet, it's not worth the hassle for me (I'll wait until I can afford a second guitar with a Floyd to have floating)

 

[Glenn Fricker]

Dropped one of these in my Jackson Rhoads V, and now it's actually studio worthy! I just keep it in hardtail mode.

It's spent the last four years or so in the case. Installing the Tremol-no was the best thing I could have done for it, as it sounds utterly fierce. It's really great to have it back.

 

[MarcusGHedwig]

Don't Tremol-no's make sorta clicking/clanking sounds when they're in down-only/free-floating mode though? (when coming up from a dip/dive)

 

[SwambA]

Don't Tremol-no's make sorta clicking/clanking sounds when they're in down-only/free-floating mode though?

If you set them up right you can't even tell they are there.

 

[egan.]

If you set them up right you can't even tell they are there.

This was not my experience even with months of fine tuning mine. It worked best in full lock but in free float it still had enough friction to hinder flutter tricks (it felt frictionless but clearly wasn't) and it definitely had some serious sympathetic vibrations on certain notes. You also most certainly can get some metal on metal clank in down only mode b/c that is literally what's happening. Ultimately I took mine out.

 

[grywolf627]

...to me, vibrato should be done with one's left hand (not like I need to tell you this of course

I beg to differ with you. You know there's nothing wrong with my vibrato. But, using a trem for vibrato at times (but never solely INSTEAD of) just adds a different flavor to the sound. Another tool for expression. And especially handy when doing vibrato over a long, sustaining harmonic-feedback note (which I'm a sucker for!). Hmm...is my Brad Gillis influence showing here?

 

[guitarguru777]

Ok enough with this FLoyd / Anti floyd shit ....

Lasse just delete this fucking thing already. This is worse then PC vs Mac

 

[Damphire]

Use a block under the back of the Floyd that keeps it level or a tremolo-no to lock it in place. Change the strings one at a time and tune each string as you go.

This. works every time with no complications. simple and effective.

 

[midget donkeys]

Love my free floating trems. The original Ibanez Edge is the best. I don't understand the point of a trem-stop. What's the point of a free floating trem if it's not free floating. No more bar flicking, pull ups, or vibrato? No thanks.

I do miss doing vibrato with the trem. I think it can sound pretty cool. Pulling up on a harmonic is really fun too. But only if you make over the top rock star faces when you do it.