Don't confuse me with "Unregistered", CLearlight. I never mentioned the words 'un-intelligent' and 'regurgitated propaganda' ...unless you were talking to "Unregistered" again... it's one big mess now...
G.W-Arial Sharon- Fascist War Criminals
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And to the comment about "Is it the faults of innocent American lives who died on 9/11"?
I feel for anyone who has lost a loved one ; death is a tragic thing.
On the other hand, although I am not pinning the blame necessarily on innocent lives who have died ;
I feel Americans generally are exposed to just as much lies, propaganda, and deceit as any other country, if not moreso.
Because of American pride and arrogance, the people of America have not been able to see past their corrupt plutocratic leaders, and at this point, you will rarely see a citizen who is willing to strongly stand in the face of opposition and authority politically. Americans I also feel are bred with the there-is-no-alternative-but-global capitalism philosophy.
So, I do feel it is partially the peoples fault for accepting our current state, b/c they would rather give into conevenience and 'safety', or they are too stupid to see past the tv screen. The blind herds are definitely a problem that will implode into themselves one day. (I do find it funny how the barely-elected pres. was still pretty much disliked amongst the general public a day before sept.11th ; now everyone loves good ol' GW. for what!?)
Anyways, enough bantering for now......
I feel for anyone who has lost a loved one ; death is a tragic thing.
On the other hand, although I am not pinning the blame necessarily on innocent lives who have died ;
I feel Americans generally are exposed to just as much lies, propaganda, and deceit as any other country, if not moreso.
Because of American pride and arrogance, the people of America have not been able to see past their corrupt plutocratic leaders, and at this point, you will rarely see a citizen who is willing to strongly stand in the face of opposition and authority politically. Americans I also feel are bred with the there-is-no-alternative-but-global capitalism philosophy.
So, I do feel it is partially the peoples fault for accepting our current state, b/c they would rather give into conevenience and 'safety', or they are too stupid to see past the tv screen. The blind herds are definitely a problem that will implode into themselves one day. (I do find it funny how the barely-elected pres. was still pretty much disliked amongst the general public a day before sept.11th ; now everyone loves good ol' GW. for what!?)
Anyways, enough bantering for now......
Those are far from my intentions.
I am well aware that quite a few Nevermore fans are politically and socially aware, so I decided to get some opinions, maybe stir up some emotions.. See how many are pro U.S.-pro Israel, etc etc . Being a rebel.. no, hehe
I am well aware that quite a few Nevermore fans are politically and socially aware, so I decided to get some opinions, maybe stir up some emotions.. See how many are pro U.S.-pro Israel, etc etc . Being a rebel.. no, hehe
Clearlight - Why do you want sources from me? Im not giving any information. Its hard to state sources when im not giving any information.
My education? Masters degree from Case Western Reserve University. Highly regarded as one of the best and most difficult universities in the United States of America. Not that it matters because Im not claiming to be any kind of expert like you are.
If you havent noticed, the American way that you trash so much is by far the most successful political system in the world. Where else do the citizens of the country have as much freedom and opportunity as they do in the US? Please enlighten me.
Beyond all of this, you have stated that you are an American and you live in America. Again, being that this is a free country with open borders, you are free to leave. If you hate our system and its leaders as much as you say you do, Im extremely confused as to why you choose to live here... I mean if Greece and the other countries you mentioned have a better system and a better way of life, why dont you move there?
Its a free country, you can leave, you are not trapped here. If you hate it leave already.
You strike me as being a weak individual if you hate a place so much yet you dont leave or do something to change what you hate.
At least be enough of a man to live in a country that practices the type of political system you wish to be a part of.
Man, quit being a bitch and get on with your life. Be happy and live somewhere that will allow you to be happy. Until then shut the fuck up!
My education? Masters degree from Case Western Reserve University. Highly regarded as one of the best and most difficult universities in the United States of America. Not that it matters because Im not claiming to be any kind of expert like you are.
If you havent noticed, the American way that you trash so much is by far the most successful political system in the world. Where else do the citizens of the country have as much freedom and opportunity as they do in the US? Please enlighten me.
Beyond all of this, you have stated that you are an American and you live in America. Again, being that this is a free country with open borders, you are free to leave. If you hate our system and its leaders as much as you say you do, Im extremely confused as to why you choose to live here... I mean if Greece and the other countries you mentioned have a better system and a better way of life, why dont you move there?
Its a free country, you can leave, you are not trapped here. If you hate it leave already.
You strike me as being a weak individual if you hate a place so much yet you dont leave or do something to change what you hate.
At least be enough of a man to live in a country that practices the type of political system you wish to be a part of.
Man, quit being a bitch and get on with your life. Be happy and live somewhere that will allow you to be happy. Until then shut the fuck up!
Believe me, I intend to leave the U.S. in the next few years ; My financial situation has not allowed me to leave earlier.
I prefer a more socialist-social democratic form of government, particularly Holland ; where the war on entheogens doesn't exist.
"Indeed, the essentials of patriotism seem to be egotism, conceit, and ignorance"-leo tolstoy
I prefer a more socialist-social democratic form of government, particularly Holland ; where the war on entheogens doesn't exist.
"Indeed, the essentials of patriotism seem to be egotism, conceit, and ignorance"-leo tolstoy
It's pretty lame to say you like Holland for the simple fact that they allow soft-drugs. You don;t have a clue of what's going on over here...oh, and don't forget there's a lot of jews here too.
enitharmon
chemical mysteries
enitharmon, I think you missed his point. He wasn't saying that allowing soft drugs was bad, he was saying it is a stupid reason for choosing a place to live. Sure America has problems, but so does every other country. Maybe we should follow everyone's desire and return to our pre WW2 isolationism policies. That way, we could let the rest of the world screw itself up more than it already does. Let the palestinians and Jews slaughter each other, let the terrorists blow up most of Europe (since our borders would be closed, they'd need a new target, and most of Europe is Christian, too). Yes, Americans are somewhat arrogant, but I think we've earned it through saving the world's ass a couple times. (and I do recognize that it wasn't our effort alone, but we were the ones that turned the tide against the Germans in both World Wars). If we weren't the ones in the spotlight, you'd all be complaining about whoever was. I bet y'all would love it if the Communists or Nazis were the big player now instead of us. Okay, now you can flame me, too. Enjoy.
I'm not saying that allowing soft drugs is good or bad, I'm just stating that if you think Holland is oh so cool because they allow softdrugs, then your vision of this country is very childish and narrowminded.
midwintertears
Shadows gild the Archways
this is more reactionary garbage. it uses spurious evidence to attack US domestic and foreign policy. take, for example, the line about deficit spending. america faces deficit spending because tax revenue has decreased, and tax revenue has decreased because the US economy is in a recession. the days of 5% growth are gone, and so are the budget surpluses.
the american military has gone abroad to do what the spineless world community will not. america went into somalia to prevent petty warlords from using food as a weapon to starve its citizens. it used its army to stop the imperialist communist forces from hijacking angola. it used its army to stop the imperialist communist forces from stealing korea. it is currently one of only scant few countries that are aboard the fight against terrorism. let me ask you this; when terrorists bombed a nightclub in the pacific rim, killing dozens of vacationing australians, where was the response from the international community? clearly they showed their cowardice and lack of democratic virtues. after all, the nations of europe failed to take action against the allegations of ethnic cleansing in the balkans, and they failed to lift a finger to prevent genocide in rwanda.
the true fascist war criminals are those who do not lift a finger to help other nations. the old axiom goes "you can't stand still on a moving train". this has never been more true than today. what has germany, the world's third largest economy, done to prevent atrocities abroad? none. now they retard movement to replace a fascist dictator from power. where were the reactionaries during operation desert fox? they were nowhere to be seen. why? because clinton was in office, not bush. if this was a clinton directed affair there would be no world protests from reactionaries. indeed, this operation would be praised by the spineless international community. instead they spread their false accusations of "war for oil". if this were true then US paratroopers would already have landed in caracas. a logical inconsistency indeed.
the american military has gone abroad to do what the spineless world community will not. america went into somalia to prevent petty warlords from using food as a weapon to starve its citizens. it used its army to stop the imperialist communist forces from hijacking angola. it used its army to stop the imperialist communist forces from stealing korea. it is currently one of only scant few countries that are aboard the fight against terrorism. let me ask you this; when terrorists bombed a nightclub in the pacific rim, killing dozens of vacationing australians, where was the response from the international community? clearly they showed their cowardice and lack of democratic virtues. after all, the nations of europe failed to take action against the allegations of ethnic cleansing in the balkans, and they failed to lift a finger to prevent genocide in rwanda.
the true fascist war criminals are those who do not lift a finger to help other nations. the old axiom goes "you can't stand still on a moving train". this has never been more true than today. what has germany, the world's third largest economy, done to prevent atrocities abroad? none. now they retard movement to replace a fascist dictator from power. where were the reactionaries during operation desert fox? they were nowhere to be seen. why? because clinton was in office, not bush. if this was a clinton directed affair there would be no world protests from reactionaries. indeed, this operation would be praised by the spineless international community. instead they spread their false accusations of "war for oil". if this were true then US paratroopers would already have landed in caracas. a logical inconsistency indeed.
so i will give palestine a seperate reply.
the palestinians are as much to blame as the israelies. their tactics of suicide bombings have proved to only escalate the tensions in the region. and with good reason, their terror campaign is criminal. if the palestinians truly wanted peace and sovereignty, they would have pursued a tactic of civil disobedience. this would have gained palestine freedom over 30 years ago. it worked for india. instead they continue with their end of the racist war. this war has been raging for decades, and shows no sign of end as long as both sides continue with the barbaric cruelty. indeed, many palestinian organizations including arafat's plo still have the destruction of the state of israel as a part of its constitution. is that any way to resolve the conflict? both sharon and arafat are equally guilty of depriving civlians of life, liberty, and the pursuit of property without due process of law.
the palestinians are as much to blame as the israelies. their tactics of suicide bombings have proved to only escalate the tensions in the region. and with good reason, their terror campaign is criminal. if the palestinians truly wanted peace and sovereignty, they would have pursued a tactic of civil disobedience. this would have gained palestine freedom over 30 years ago. it worked for india. instead they continue with their end of the racist war. this war has been raging for decades, and shows no sign of end as long as both sides continue with the barbaric cruelty. indeed, many palestinian organizations including arafat's plo still have the destruction of the state of israel as a part of its constitution. is that any way to resolve the conflict? both sharon and arafat are equally guilty of depriving civlians of life, liberty, and the pursuit of property without due process of law.
Two words-FUCK POLITICS.
I have yet to see a political decison NOT amde out of greed.
All politicans deep down want power and that is why they shouldn't have it. Any leader of a country is fucked up. Name 3 good ones.
Bill clinton was probably the best and thats because he got blowed every now and then and wasn't a genocidal maniac.
I have yet to see a political decison NOT amde out of greed.
All politicans deep down want power and that is why they shouldn't have it. Any leader of a country is fucked up. Name 3 good ones.
Bill clinton was probably the best and thats because he got blowed every now and then and wasn't a genocidal maniac.
Ihreil Junkenstein
Bad Blood
[QUOTE
Have you noticed that 95% on Americans back their President and his actions? QUOTE]
96% of all the people I have ever met are cretins. I wouldn't trust them to walk me across the road in a straight line.
Have you noticed that 95% on Americans back their President and his actions? QUOTE]
96% of all the people I have ever met are cretins. I wouldn't trust them to walk me across the road in a straight line.
LORD_RED_DRAGON
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