GMD Poll: Top 10 Metal Albums of 1992

[TechnicalBarbarity]

most 80's metal > 90's metal = STONE COLD FACT

 

[Baroque]

most 80's metal > 90's metal = STONE COLD FACT

See you're still doing it wrong, what you want is

Most 80s metal > most 90s metal in your opinion (not fact)

And I still don't see the point in defining it that way. Thrash and death bands were still pumping out good albums 90-93

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

See you're still doing it wrong, what you want is

80s metal > most 90s metal in your opinion (not fact)

Considering the neverending list i typed up for you, nah i'd say its pretty much a fact.

And I still don't see the point in defining it that way. Thrash and death bands were still pumping out good albums 90-93

Ummmm, did anyone imply that they werent? And you dont need to stop at 93 ... plenty of top notch death metal albums were released throughout the 90's

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I read once that the idea of the iron age being a direct advancement over the bronze age is actually something of a misnomer, and that the reason you needed an iron age to begin with was that copper and tin were relatively rare, and that expanding civilizations needed cheaper, disposable tools and weapons to be divided among the plebs. Assuming this is true and not something made up, you could say that the 80s and early 90s represented the bronze age of metal, where civilization first truly began, producing hardy oxidation-resistant artifacts to still be discovered eons after the fact, and the later 90s and beyond represented the iron age where quantity was valued over quality, and where attempts at purity were always in vain as their tools began to rot from non-metal contamination.

 

[CiG]

The classic period of metal I would say is the 1980's and I'm not quite sure in what way classic and golden are not synonymous.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

i think most bands from the 90s would agree with it tbh, a lot of the major bands started out pretty blatantly worshipping stuff from the '80s. besides, i think the golden age of anything always precedes the silver age?

That's just a sign of respect towards one's forefathers. Metal reaches its teleological climax in the 90s with death and black metal, which are the fullest manifestation of the essence of metal.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

which are the fullest manifestation of the essence of metal.

... lulz.

 

[CiG]

Metal reaches its teleological climax in the 90s with death and black metal, which are the fullest manifestation of the essence of metal.

This is a strange idea.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Not strange, just stupid and wrong. Extreme metal wimps love to talk about "the logical conclusion of metal" and etc.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

This is a strange idea.

It's a theory I've mulled over for a while. I really need sit down and write it out thoroughly (if I ever had the time).

The cliff notes version is that Black Sabbath introduced a level of heaviness, darkness, and evil that was previously unseen in popular music. With thrash, this aesthetic is pushed to a further extreme, most notably with Slayer. Ultimately, this culminates in the extreme metal of the early-mid 90s, which realized fully the nihilistic essence of metal that Black Sabbath laid the seeds of decades earlier.

 

[no country for old wainds]

i totally think sabbath sowed a seed or two that culminated with extreme metal, but there's also a lot of extreme metal that strays so far from the genre's fundamentals that it can hardly be deemed metal anymore. and there are other seeds that culminated elsewhere, like in power metal for example.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

i totally think sabbath sowed a seed or two that culminated with extreme metal, but there's also a lot of extreme metal that strays so far from the genre's fundamentals that it can hardly be deemed metal anymore. and there are other seeds that culminated elsewhere, like in power metal for example.

Sure, but most of those seeds already existed within rock. The unqiue one blossomed in black and death metal.

 

[Baroque]

So let me get this straight ... my favorite album being from 1990 "self contradicts" my statement that the 80's were a better decade for metal than the 90's? So you what you want me to have is just a completely ignorant and self-centered opinion on the the matter? no thanks

Best albums from Metallica, Sodom, Kreator, Coroner, Destruction, Death, Morbid Angel, Sepultura, Sadus, Overkill, Metal Church, Forbidden, Voviod, Pestilence, Vio-Lence, Razor, Artillery, Heathen, Whiplash, Iron Maiden, Bathory, Master, Dark Angel, Sacrifice, Tankard, Obituary, Dio, tank, just about the whole NWOBHM movement .... shit, my fingers are getting tired

I don't want to reopen this but I just went to listen to By Inheritance and realized it was 1990 also

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Sure, but most of those seeds already existed within rock. The unqiue one blossomed in black and death metal.

What seeds are you referring to? Several characteristics of black and/or death metal already existed prior to either within rock music, particularly punk-related music on the whole.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

I don't want to reopen this but I just went to listen to By Inheritance and realized it was 1990 also

... lol, so? And what exactly does that prove?

If you want, you can take that one album out of my list. But i can just keep adding bands that pumped out their best work in the 80's ... Motorhead, Nuclear Assault, Mercyful Fate, Autopsy, Repulsion, Terrorizer, Venom, Onlsaught, Morbid Saint, Omen, Deathrow, Toxik, Sentinel Beast, Evildead ... i can really keep going for another few pages.

edit: Motorhead and Autopsy can be debatable. Severed Survival is my favorite Autopsy album for sure. And tbf I like Overkill(79) just as much as i do Ace of Spades ... but both of those are better than anything they released in the 90's by a wide margin.

 

[CiG]

It's a theory I've mulled over for a while. I really need sit down and write it out thoroughly (if I ever had the time).

I'd read it. It sounds interesting, even if I think I disagree with it, from what I can gather.

The cliff notes version is that Black Sabbath introduced a level of heaviness, darkness, and evil that was previously unseen in popular music. With thrash, this aesthetic is pushed to a further extreme, most notably with Slayer. Ultimately, this culminates in the extreme metal of the early-mid 90s, which realized fully the nihilistic essence of metal that Black Sabbath laid the seeds of decades earlier.

See, I think you're projecting what you desire about metal onto this theory, because I don't think there was much especially nihilistic about Black Sabbath or heavy metal in general.

Similarly, I might say that the more epic/classic forms of metal (power metal, doom metal, progressive metal) are the fullest manifestation of the essence of metal. Could be because I prefer those types of metal over the others, but also because I think they better represent the emotions and philosophies that bands like Black Sabbath and Judas Priest have at the core of their being. Hopefulness, freedom, awe, glory and so on.

 

[Baroque]

Extreme progressive metal ftw

I think that is the final form of metal that can't really be advanced beyond. Though leave it to someone to create "post extreme progressive metal"

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

I'd read it. It sounds interesting, even if I think I disagree with it, from what I can gather.



See, I think you're projecting what you desire about metal onto this theory, because I don't think there was much especially nihilistic about Black Sabbath or heavy metal in general.

Similarly, I might say that the more epic/classic forms of metal (power metal, doom metal, progressive metal) are the fullest manifestation of the essence of metal. Could be because I prefer those types of metal over the others, but also because I think they better represent the emotions and philosophies that bands like Black Sabbath and Judas Priest have at the core of their being. Hopefulness, freedom, awe, glory and so on.

You get hopefulness from doom metal?

 

[CiG]

You get hopefulness from doom metal?

Not so much, but awe and glory? Yes. Though not all doom metal is hopeless.

Extreme progressive metal ftw

I think that is the final form of metal that can't really be advanced beyond. Though leave it to someone to create "post extreme progressive metal

There's definitely some truth to this.

 

[Baroque]

Luckily extreme progressive metal is still a relatively small subgenre so there's plenty of room to explore. It's also difficult as shit to create and play so not a lot of bands are even capable of doing it well.