For Green Carnation, try "In The Woods...", GC is basicaly a more m_e_t_a_l version of them (and GC was actually ITW before they changed vocalists and then their name, back in the early 90s. GC has since re-formed, and actually has had most of the ITW crew play in it (one of the singers, bassist, one guitarist on the first cd, the drummer and other guitarust on the other cd)). Very cool band (actually, I'd go so far as to say 'great').