Green Carnation split because of bad tour

AnTz0r

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"Tchort announce that the current line up of Green Carnation has split up.

Although releasing the amazing concert DVD A night under the Dam earlier this year, the band felt drained of energy after the miserable organized USA tour put together by The End Records and their booking agent. The End Records being one of the main supporters of the band the last years, bringing hope back to Green Carnation's view on the music business, left the band with broken promises, huge debts, theft of license money and a poor organized tour draining the band for energy. The band doesn’t blame The End Records for all of its problems, but they made a bad situation worse by first giving the tour a green light when the conditions for the tour were doomed from the beginning and then later withdraw license money, merchandise money, merchandise and not paying the band or its sound engineer, leaving the band in debts. All of which could have been avoided by cancelling the tour before it started. The End Records lost money on the tour as well, so why it wasn’t cancelled when the contracts for the tour were offered to the label, is a unanswered question.

The deal for the tour was that Green Carnation would cover the flights to and from the USA, while the rest of the tour would be covered by The End Records and tour income. But in the end, the band covered the flights, their own fee, the fee of the sound engineer, some of the gas and hotel expenses during the tour, and paid for CD's that were sold during the tour. On top of that The End Records - withdraw the license money from the last album, took all the merch money and the CD's to cover their own losses. What The End Records had to gain from sending the band across the world, driving across the continent of America twice, just to come to a town where the local promoter haven’t been seen around for the last 4 months, or arrive at clubs that don’t even know you are coming, to clubs where the local promoter put up another show because the booking agent never replied to their booking confirmation so instead they went ahead and booked other tours on the same date.

In the end, it made the band members avoid live situations, tours and business partners. The band members felt they had little or nothing to give anymore, and I don’t blame them. I saw where we were heading and it wasn’t where we wanted to be at, so instead of ending up with a mediocre album, we decided to call it the quits after the most spectacular release we have produced so far; A Night Under the Dam on DVD.

Tchort will continue writing music under the name Green Carnation, but probably will never play live again with the band."
 
Here's my explanation:

Fans, labels, and promoters are telling bands that they can easily make good money on a US tour. That Americans love heavy metal again and its popular. The truth is much worse. A few bands can make good money in the US, but without adequate backing, promotion, and tour management, most bands will lose money by coming to the US and playing in the US.
 
i dont know... if my band would go on tour to the US i would fukken make damn sure everything was ok before i would make the investment. if i get tour dates and venues, i would check their websites... see if you're announced there. i cant believe they didnt check up on it before hand. and green carnation accusing them of theft etc... didnt they make any contracts or anything?
 
ok the end issued a statement that's its all lies of course.

there are people saying The End has had some more bad publicity in the past. anybody know what's been going on over there?
 
AnTz0r said:
ok the end issued a statement that's its all lies of course
Can you provide a link or cut and paste the text. I've been without the Internet for a couple of weeks and missed this.

Does anyone think that there is a connection between this incident and the matters raised in the business "makeover" article?

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