Or maybe this guy - the fact that the receiver on the Samson is stompbox size and the transmitter doesn't require a bodypack is fucking awesome, but I have to wonder what they have to sacrifice to make it so a) small and b) cheap, compared to the AT (and as a company, I trust Audio Technica more) - that receiver is pretty fucking big, though, and it'd be going on my pedalboard...
guitar wireless system
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madbutcher
Member
I was wondering the same about the small samsons. The no bodypack looks great, but I wonder about the quality. Receiver size is of no concern for me as I am putting mine in my rack.
Z3R0
Member
I forked out the extra money and got me a Sennheiser G400. Every touring "mainstream" band i've ever seen in the last year or so has always used that, and i now know why.
It's a brick, gives you more options than any other wireless out there, and never had a single problem and is clear as day. A Sennheiser rep gave me 1354234 thousand more reasons why in the details and specs of it one day too.
It's a brick, gives you more options than any other wireless out there, and never had a single problem and is clear as day. A Sennheiser rep gave me 1354234 thousand more reasons why in the details and specs of it one day too.
Fredrik-Ablaze
Member
at least you should have true diversity and a couple of switchable channels if youre ever planning on using it live.
tried the small samsons a couple of years ago but my highmids were slaughtered by them. ended up with a mipro system back then and switched back to cable six months later.
Executioner213
Ultimate Meatbag
Speaking of the X2 wireless....did they come down in price or are they just temporarily on sale???
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation?q=x2+wireless&st=
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation?q=x2+wireless&st=
Seems like it's a permanent thing since it affects all models, but who knows - still, the tales of awful battery life and cheap construction have swayed me away from the X2 route, especially since I'm an active pickup user, which are less sensitive to lower impedance (better tone preservation is a big selling point of the X2 stuff, which I assume just means higher input impedance on the body packs)
Executioner213
Ultimate Meatbag
The thing I don't get though is I heard nothing bad about X2 until Line6 bought em...either Line6 fucked em up when they bought em or people just say boo to anything Line6 touches.
-Gavin-
Gavornator
Hi all. I'm new here.
I'm getting an X2 wireless pretty soon. I hope it works out pretty well on my setup.
If you live in Europe, you cannot use it, as it operates in between the 902–928 MHz frequency range. So indeed, it's illegal, or maybe even it won't work properly.
Honestly, I couldn't understand and care less about radio frequencies and all that crap haha, but I found this wiki article which seems pretty useful for all that frequency mambo on your wireless gear:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISM_band
Cheers.
I'm getting an X2 wireless pretty soon. I hope it works out pretty well on my setup.
If you live in Europe, you cannot use it, as it operates in between the 902–928 MHz frequency range. So indeed, it's illegal, or maybe even it won't work properly.
Honestly, I couldn't understand and care less about radio frequencies and all that crap haha, but I found this wiki article which seems pretty useful for all that frequency mambo on your wireless gear:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISM_band
Cheers.
TheDude
Jocke Skog
Just to clarify the X2 issue in Europe. It's in the 900 range which puts it in the cell phone range, which causes interference with cell phones. In the US, the frequency used is 1800MHz so the issue is non-existent there.
Sound good until someone's getting a call.
Line6 are releasing a 2GHz digital soon, which works like wireless mouses and such. It's a different technology since you lock your signal from the transmitter to the receiver. Don't know how it work though.
Since many TV networks are going more and more digital, there will be more frequency problems in the future, since the 700MHz band will be sold to... No one is sure atm.
That's why you need more channels, to be able to play with all wireless-noobs that buy the "cheap and good", with 1-3 channels. We use the AKG450. Good sound, and plenty of channels in case of interference. Also the battery time is about 5 hours, with one AA battery. We had a setup with 10 systems (three git/bass, two mics, two in-ear monitoring). Worked like a charm, but a bit too radio-messy to setup.
Hope that I made it a bit more clear.
Sound good until someone's getting a call.
Line6 are releasing a 2GHz digital soon, which works like wireless mouses and such. It's a different technology since you lock your signal from the transmitter to the receiver. Don't know how it work though.
Since many TV networks are going more and more digital, there will be more frequency problems in the future, since the 700MHz band will be sold to... No one is sure atm.
That's why you need more channels, to be able to play with all wireless-noobs that buy the "cheap and good", with 1-3 channels. We use the AKG450. Good sound, and plenty of channels in case of interference. Also the battery time is about 5 hours, with one AA battery. We had a setup with 10 systems (three git/bass, two mics, two in-ear monitoring). Worked like a charm, but a bit too radio-messy to setup.
Hope that I made it a bit more clear.
Got my X2 XDR95 today, finally.
Haven't got the chance to test it quite well yet, but my first overall impression on it is superb. I've tried it during rehearsal, and I did not notice any loss of audio quality... sounded as if the guitar was plugged and connected straight to the amp with a perfectly built cable, really.
It was so goddamn easy to set up: just unpacked everything, connected the antennas to the receiver, switched it on, plugged my transmitter to the guitar, turned it on, and that was it.
I walked out of the room and went out of the house, for like 60 meters away from the rig, and got no issues apparently, at least it was fun for a while haha.
I'll see if I can take this test even further, and maybe record a few samples for the same setup, one with cable and another with the XDR95, from like 200-300 meters away, to see how it handles its maximum transmission range.
Haven't got the chance to test it quite well yet, but my first overall impression on it is superb. I've tried it during rehearsal, and I did not notice any loss of audio quality... sounded as if the guitar was plugged and connected straight to the amp with a perfectly built cable, really.
It was so goddamn easy to set up: just unpacked everything, connected the antennas to the receiver, switched it on, plugged my transmitter to the guitar, turned it on, and that was it.
I walked out of the room and went out of the house, for like 60 meters away from the rig, and got no issues apparently, at least it was fun for a while haha.
I'll see if I can take this test even further, and maybe record a few samples for the same setup, one with cable and another with the XDR95, from like 200-300 meters away, to see how it handles its maximum transmission range.
jrt12
Member
so when's the first bluetooth system for guitar gonna come out? and we start swapping out A/D converters for jack outputs like we do for pups. its nearly 2010! if we dont have flying cars yet, we shoudl at least have this
Fifth_Horseman
Watch out, it's sharp!
If the stage is big enough to warrant using a wireless, I use this one:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/sennheiser_ew172_g2_funksystem_gitarre.htm
Bought it used and it hasn't failed me so far, sound quality is nice and it has enough options to tweak the signal levels (from sender body pack as well as receiver output into amp) to really get it right.
However, I read that the frequency range it operates in might be used for cellphones in a few years, which would immediately turn it into worthless scrap.
... found an article about that: http://www.eetimes.eu/germany/215900616
http://www.thomann.de/gb/sennheiser_ew172_g2_funksystem_gitarre.htm
Bought it used and it hasn't failed me so far, sound quality is nice and it has enough options to tweak the signal levels (from sender body pack as well as receiver output into amp) to really get it right.
However, I read that the frequency range it operates in might be used for cellphones in a few years, which would immediately turn it into worthless scrap.
... found an article about that: http://www.eetimes.eu/germany/215900616
Trevoire520
Member
My bandmates have sennheiser freeports and as far as I'm aware they haven't had any problems. I've got an AKG wms40 pro and its pretty decent, comes in a nice case and lasts a long time off a single AA battery. I did have it go all weird on me at one gig where there were these shitty blinking lights on the same power strip that caused some interference. Other than that one event I've had no complaints.
MarkG
Member
Yeah the price is really good. Ive never had any issues, sound is good and so is the quality, simple yet effective
I have it too, great unit.
hogan666
Member
+1 for the SENNHEISER EW 172.
Never had any problems + it doesn't alter your sound in a negative way.
Used the Shure UT4 before for 5-6 years which was ok, but nothing more.
Cheap plastic shit. :Smug:
The only con on the Sennheiser...it's a battery sucker...but who cares ;-)
Pro: Metal-housing + nice rackmount kit.
Con: Battery-sucker + cheap guitar2transmitter-cable (solution: diy with neutrik-plug)
Cheers, Hogan.
Never had any problems + it doesn't alter your sound in a negative way.
Used the Shure UT4 before for 5-6 years which was ok, but nothing more.
Cheap plastic shit. :Smug:
The only con on the Sennheiser...it's a battery sucker...but who cares ;-)
Pro: Metal-housing + nice rackmount kit.
Con: Battery-sucker + cheap guitar2transmitter-cable (solution: diy with neutrik-plug)
Cheers, Hogan.
