Guitar with cab off

[slaytah]

I've started bypassing the cab in Amplitube to get that harsh, trebly old school BM tone, with great results (after some eq and tape saturation). We're going to be performing live, and I want to know - how would we recreate that cab-off effect live? The lead guitarist's amp is a Peavey Bandit 112 combo. I'm guessing there's no way to switch the cab part off, I'd assume the head and cab part are integrated. I've searched google and forums, and I can't find anything explaining how it works. As a last resort, he's got a Dragonfly BM Pedal, I'm sure we could tweak the "hate", "vengeance" and whatever else "kvlt" names they've used!

And how do a band in a recording studio record guitars with the cab off? Thinking particularly of BM albums like Under The Sign Of The Black Mark, A Blaze In The Northern Sky, Emperor's self-titled E.P. etc.

 

[Star Ark]

in the studio for your recording use an amp sim and dont use a speaker sim. live use a distortion pedal straight into the sound desk.

 

[Trevoire520]

Or you could make your guitars sound good...

 

[He's Dead, Jim]

I'm not an expert in recording or mixing, but I don't think that's a very good idea. I think you would get a better sound (even if you want it to sound like crap) by experimenting with the settings on the amp itself and different distortion pedals.

 

[slaytah]

in the studio for your recording use an amp sim and dont use a speaker sim. live use a distortion pedal straight into the sound desk.

Cheers Star Ark, appreciate that.

Or you could make your guitars sound good...

Haha, nice one!

 

[Igor Samurovic]

Or you could make your guitars sound good...

You are obviously not a BM fan But so it goes, BM fans are usually not great fans of good production.

 

[Melb_shredder]

Bad cat dist -> Marshall -> 1960A cab. I thought that was the go to chain??

 

[meanmrmustad]

Play Detroit Rock City!

 

[Ericlingus]

just plug a metal zone straight into the board and get rid of the bass guitar!

 

[meanmrmustad]

The behringhers are bettttter for black metal, get a heavy metal pedal

 

[mstone564]

Lol yeah a distortion pedal of some sort that has a filter so people watching don't die of too much treble.

 

[EffigyForgotten]

This

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Heaviest guitar sound you will ever hear, seriously. I made a patch on my GSP1101 with the triple rectifier model boosted by a mt-2 and holy fucking shit its brutal, the mt-2 actually gives amps a dryer and tighter sound than tube screamers, which is probably why it works best with really gainy amps (like a triple rec and 6505)

 

[DeclanWhite]

ew

 

[EffigyForgotten]

ew

Try it

 

[Fox Mulder]

MT2>Impulses. Win.

 

[Sethis]

Black metal guitars sounds horribly thin but they certainly do not suck as much as an amp sim without a cab. I think you've taken BM to the next level...:Smokedev:

 

[abaga129]

What I like to do is mic up a pan of frying bacon with a good condensor and blend it in with the guitars. It adds a nice sizzling high end and a deep maple smoked low end.
Works really well. You should try it.

 

[-Noodles-]

FWIW - a lot of large artists are sending a 'dry' output signal from heads straight to the PA or wedges..

it's not as crazy as it sounds. the amp head output does have an emulation on top of it - but it's not as dodgy as a cab sim.