Hallo!
Glad to find a forum about metal recording...
I just recorded sucessfully the guitars of my own band in my studio.
Since I normally record demo-CDs for unknown bands I didn't care _so_ much about there guitar sound. Means I take care but I do not try to find a special sound, I assume thats their sound they want and as long it does work I simply try to catch their sound an make only slight improvements.
But, with my own band I have a special sound in mind an my guitarists, too.
We are looking for a fat, heavy but clean sound like carcass' heartwork, samael's rebellion etc. We tune down to B.
In the past and during the sessions we tried a lot of amps and FX:
- JCM900
- two Engl (Savage and ?)
- Mesa Boogie, new dual rectifier
- Boss Metal Zone
- POD Line 6 (direct and as preamp)
- Marshall Valvestate
and some strange combination like a boss overdrive OD1 into JCM 900 etc.
The winner are always the valvestate over a 4x12" Engl cabinet for rhytm guitars. And this time for the melodie parts (those are like Paradise Lost) over the POD ("high gain") as preamp into the clean channel of the valvestate.
I prefered a real microfon over the POD's simulation.
Apropos microfone, we did a shootout of the microfones as well. The winner are the SM57. But I used a C451B additionally to have an different sound for the doubled guitars.
(Guitar Gibson Heritage tuning B, E, A, D, f#, b, 0.056"-0.012" strings)
Is this normal that a low budget tranny amp and a cheap digital solution are better than any full valve amp we tried? Esspecially the Mesa sounded ugly. There are some kind of mudd in the upper mids. Where as the lower mids are clearer than those of the valvestate. We tried everything playing technique, different, plecs, different guitars. It always sounds dirty (in a negative way).
Any comments?
@andy:
How were the guitars on Kreators "violent revolution" recorded?
Which amps? Which mics?
Glad to find a forum about metal recording...
I just recorded sucessfully the guitars of my own band in my studio.
Since I normally record demo-CDs for unknown bands I didn't care _so_ much about there guitar sound. Means I take care but I do not try to find a special sound, I assume thats their sound they want and as long it does work I simply try to catch their sound an make only slight improvements.
But, with my own band I have a special sound in mind an my guitarists, too.
We are looking for a fat, heavy but clean sound like carcass' heartwork, samael's rebellion etc. We tune down to B.
In the past and during the sessions we tried a lot of amps and FX:
- JCM900
- two Engl (Savage and ?)
- Mesa Boogie, new dual rectifier
- Boss Metal Zone
- POD Line 6 (direct and as preamp)
- Marshall Valvestate
and some strange combination like a boss overdrive OD1 into JCM 900 etc.
The winner are always the valvestate over a 4x12" Engl cabinet for rhytm guitars. And this time for the melodie parts (those are like Paradise Lost) over the POD ("high gain") as preamp into the clean channel of the valvestate.
I prefered a real microfon over the POD's simulation.
Apropos microfone, we did a shootout of the microfones as well. The winner are the SM57. But I used a C451B additionally to have an different sound for the doubled guitars.
(Guitar Gibson Heritage tuning B, E, A, D, f#, b, 0.056"-0.012" strings)
Is this normal that a low budget tranny amp and a cheap digital solution are better than any full valve amp we tried? Esspecially the Mesa sounded ugly. There are some kind of mudd in the upper mids. Where as the lower mids are clearer than those of the valvestate. We tried everything playing technique, different, plecs, different guitars. It always sounds dirty (in a negative way).
Any comments?
@andy:
How were the guitars on Kreators "violent revolution" recorded?
Which amps? Which mics?