H1N1......A global LIE (as usual)

Yeah, well, this is the same guy that believed that a spirit told him that he was meant to enlighten people and save the world yadayadayada.. to eventually go as far as saying that he is the son of god!

While i do agree that the Swine Flu is over-hyped and that its the CDC that stands behind it all, i wont believe dipshit assholes like this one.
 
David Icke is the shit

I actually mean it ¬_¬
Yeah I totally just lost all credibility
 
Yes the lizard's shit is fucking ridicolous.
But this thing it's not so ridicolous. The fact that they wanna vaccinate the kids under the 2 years for 25 or more diseases...... it's not very good. They have to get these diseases to reinforce their immunitary system, like we do when we was young.
And there are many doctors that don't want to vaccinate themself, because they know the flu is dangerous.
 
It's too bad the topicstarter put David Icke in there.
One who is ridiculed although a lot of what he is saying is true.

This makes the credibility of a topic go down in no time. seen that most people on earth, also (you) people who think they think outside the box, are blind sheep.
Who will do whatever it costs to keep their bubble in tact.
There are way more credible people/exhibits to show in this case.

@ topicstarter:

Is there any discussion you want to get started on this?










p.s. What's so unbelievable about reptile-people ruling our world ?
Not nearly as unbelievable as G.W. Bush getting democratically elected....
(not nearly as unbelievable as a democracy )
(not nearly is unbelievable as unbelievable)




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And so?
Let's go everybody to take the flu :D
I know David Icke is so ridicolous, cause his fuckin' lizard's theory...but some of the things he says on this video are not ridicolous. Obviously there are also better people that speak about this case, but the point is not David Icke, the point is the flu.
 
Well there`s no need to watch a video to see the true that is in front of everybody`s nose, is clearly as water that is a lie, not overhyped this thing is a fucking lie, what is the purpose?? well that`s is for another topic, but i think nobody here want to talk about it. the fucking true is in front of everyone faces.

Put is right, Icke may be a loon, but A LOT of what he says make sense. and about the repitile guys well, is the same as believe there is a big guy with a big white beard sitting in a cloud watching everyones moves, but i think there is more evidence of the first.
 
funny thing is, the further you go into science and history the more plausible the idea of a 'god' becomes.

Now if you see 'god' as a dude with a beard on a cloud (imagine how fucking super flyweight that dude must be) or as the basic thing all and everything consists and is regulated of makes a tiny difference.


Off to bed :saint: sleep tight all
 
Do vaccines not just strengthen the immune system? I'm not trying to be a dick, I mean really, how does a vaccine weaken the immune system?
I see a lot of people against these vaccines, but I never really see some good solid reasons to avoid them. I'd be open to some, though.
Otherwise, I was thinking of getting both the seasonal and h1n1 shots sometime soon. A few of my friends have had the flu recently and I'd rather avoid it.

Here's the 60mins take on the virus.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5394553n

edit:
Anybody wanna say something about the normal flu, that only in Italy kills 9000 peoples every year? But nobody say nothing about this :)

I read, on an anti-vaccine website actually, that the seasonal flu deaths are overinflated because they count pneumonia bacterial infections. Usually the virus weakens the respiratory system and pneumonia comes in after. I guess the site was suggesting that most of the pneumonia deaths weren't from getting the flu first. idk...
 
Do vaccines not just strengthen the immune system? I'm not trying to be a dick, I mean really, how does a vaccine weaken the immune system?
I see a lot of people against these vaccines, but I never really see some good solid reasons to avoid them. I'd be open to some, though.
Otherwise, I was thinking of getting both the seasonal and h1n1 shots sometime soon. A few of my friends have had the flu recently and I'd rather avoid it.

Here's the 60mins take on the virus.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5394553n

edit:


I read, on an anti-vaccine website actually, that the seasonal flu deaths are overinflated because they count pneumonia bacterial infections. Usually the virus weakens the respiratory system and pneumonia comes in after. I guess the site was suggesting that most of the pneumonia deaths weren't from getting the flu first. idk...

Well some people can have weird reactions to them, especially if you are on some medications for things. Some girl just got hospitalized for getting an injection by a school nurse when she shouldn't have.
 
Do vaccines not just strengthen the immune system? I'm not trying to be a dick, I mean really, how does a vaccine weaken the immune system?

It's because of the way influenza works. With flu shots going out so readily in the past years, the virus keeps changing. Every year that we have a flu vaccine, the virus 'changes', and a new 'type' of influenza emerges. So the vaccine we all got 2 years ago would do nothing to the influenza running around now. So the virus is always going to get stronger, yet since we keep feeding ourselves with the vaccines to fight it, our body won't naturally strengthen itself to ward off these viruses. So the problem lies in the fact that one day the influenza will be so powerful, that if we don't have a vaccine, added on to the fact that our immune systems haven't evolved themselves due to so many vaccines, eventually the standard influenza can become a killer on an epic scale.

And this goes for all types of viruses, not just the influenza or H1N1....
 
It's because of the way influenza works. With flu shots going out so readily in the past years, the virus keeps changing. Every year that we have a flu vaccine, the virus 'changes', and a new 'type' of influenza emerges. So the vaccine we all got 2 years ago would do nothing to the influenza running around now. So the virus is always going to get stronger, yet since we keep feeding ourselves with the vaccines to fight it, our body won't naturally strengthen itself to ward off these viruses. So the problem lies in the fact that one day the influenza will be so powerful, that if we don't have a vaccine, added on to the fact that our immune systems haven't evolved themselves due to so many vaccines, eventually the standard influenza can become a killer on an epic scale.

And this goes for all types of viruses, not just the influenza or H1N1....

I see, but wouldn't it make sense to get the vaccine and also strengthen your immune system in other ways? All the vaccine does is teach your body how to fight off that one type of influenza, but getting sick with it is only going to do the same thing right? Even if you have a really strong immune system, won't the virus affect you anyways because it has changed?
 
funny thing is, the further you go into science and history the more plausible the idea of a 'god' becomes.

Not sure about history, but with science that's a bit of a 'no' - this isn't even a religion thread anyway.

There are plenty of other diseases to help train our immune system - and since vaccines *train the immune system*, I fail to see how the technology that has already killed off several seriously debilitating diseases needs to be criticized.

Jeff
 
Even if you have a really strong immune system, won't the virus affect you anyways because it has changed?

Yes, but it won't destroy you... That's the difference between the vaccine fighting it and your natural body fighting it.

But who really knows, I'm no doctor, I just read too much :heh:

I personally understand that constant vaccination is bad(at least for typical viruses), but I still get my flu shots every year and am very happy to not have had the flu in about 10 years.
 
Not sure about history, but with science that's a bit of a 'no' - this isn't even a religion thread anyway.

There are plenty of other diseases to help train our immune system - and since vaccines *train the immune system*, I fail to see how the technology that has already killed off several seriously debilitating diseases needs to be criticized.

Jeff

+1, AFAIK pretty much the only thing left to religion actually in science is the yet undiscovered Higgs boson, which would tell how some particules have mass and others don't (IIRC).
 

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