H1N1......A global LIE (as usual)
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Metal Overload
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I never had a vaccine and i barely have it and when i have the flu is just for a few days, as normal, but back on topic, here in Mexico the topic is strong so people talk about mandatory vaccines, i have a friend who was at a conference given by a "Big fish" of The health department, he said that everyone at institutions should have the vaccine because is the only way to not spread the disease, my friend ask "what happen if i don´t want to take it" and the fucker said "you should, because if you don´t and you get the virus you`ll infect to the others who have taken the vaccine" so my question is, if everyone in the institution got the vaccine, why they would get infected anyways? i thought a vaccine protect you agains the virus. this mean that the vaccine isn´t effective at all.
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and thats why people like you should only be the ones commenting on whats a lie and whats not.
when someone dies from a disease or a natural disaster the last thing they wanna here is someone who has no fucking clue, say that it's a lie.
I have yet to see any reason why religion can say a damned thing about the Higgs boson. What exactly do you expect out of it?
The LHC should be operational by the middle of the month. We'll see what happens.
Jeff
The LHC should be operational by the middle of the month. We'll see what happens.
Jeff
jet_dry
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I'm recovering from H1N1 right now, not fun business. In my experience it was no better or worse than any other strain of the flu I've ever had. As far as the vaccine goes, it's still only being given to the "high risk" people in my area (the elderly, infants.) I'm not sure about whether it's legitimate or not, but it's already been given to healthcare professionals in the region, and the one I live with seems fine. The most effective cure I had was Lipton Chicken Noodle, the kind in the packet. Delicious noodles and sauce, with none of your fancy "cans and real meat" technology.
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The disease isn´t the lie, you should already know that h1n1 is just a flu, like the one you have when the weather change or whatever the reason.
I doubt that's what he was saying. David Icke is being an obnoxious wanker again, that's all.
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Fuck not this dude. The worst part is my sister actually believes his shit, she thinks every word he speaks is fucking gold and if i try to discuss it she gets pissed off. Its fucking aggravating. It made me realize i cant hold an adult conversation with her.
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Well, here people knows shit about icke, but some know that h1n1 is bullshit, you need only your eyes to see it, is obvios the disease exist, but isn´t a fucking pandemic please, is that hard to see? so why the hype about it, what`s behind?? selling flu shots?? i think is more than that.
It is a pandemic, but pandemic doesn't mean OH NOES WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE FROM RATS AND COUGHING OUR LUNGS OUT AND THE PLAGUE AND SUPERAIRBORNEAIDSOFDEATH AND SHIT HALP!
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Metal Overload
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Yeah, well that is, isn´t that dangerous and you only need to rest and chicken soup, that`s the remedy to the end of the world.
scorpio01169
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I guess the point I'm trying to make is....if a serial killer was just getting started on his killing spree....do we say " it's just a few people...no big deal"
iekobrid
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The statement "Vaccinations undermine a child's immune system" is roughly equivalent to the statement "Being raised by parents who are Alice Cooper fans makes a child more likely to be shocked by Marilyn Manson". Utter crap.
If anything is going to undermine the development of a child's immune system, it's having a mother who uses antibacterial soap and hand sanitizer lotion and sprays bleach solution on every surface and yells at her kids not to eat dirt or lick trees. Immune systems are like muscles -- they get stronger from exercise and learn from repetition. If you want to raise a kid with a strong immune system, expose him to (ideally non-lethal doses) of as many germs as possible -- vaccines included. Anyone who would warn people away from vaccines on the basis that kids should be allowed to develop "naturally" * makes me wonder if they also believe too few people die from disease every year, and that too many "weak" gene pools are being aided in surviving instead of being allowed to die off from natural selection.
* [instead of warning people away from vaccines because some may be inherently harmful, like the ones anecdotally linked to autism]
All that said, bear in mind that in flu pandemics of centuries past, a significant portion of the fatalities were college age people with strong, robust immune systems that overreacted to the flu and ended up killing them. Had they been small children or old people with weakened immune systems, they might have lived. Damned if ya do, Damned if ya don't....
Check out this graph. The dotted line represents the age distribution of deaths from a normal 'seasonal' flu. The solid line represents the H1N1 pandemic of 1918. Normally flu mainly kills reallyreally young kids whose immune systems are physically and experientially weak, and reallyreally old folks who are just plain weak in general. But in 1918, something like 50% of the deaths were people between age 20 and 40, coz their badass immune systems didn't know when to quit.
If anything is going to undermine the development of a child's immune system, it's having a mother who uses antibacterial soap and hand sanitizer lotion and sprays bleach solution on every surface and yells at her kids not to eat dirt or lick trees. Immune systems are like muscles -- they get stronger from exercise and learn from repetition. If you want to raise a kid with a strong immune system, expose him to (ideally non-lethal doses) of as many germs as possible -- vaccines included. Anyone who would warn people away from vaccines on the basis that kids should be allowed to develop "naturally" * makes me wonder if they also believe too few people die from disease every year, and that too many "weak" gene pools are being aided in surviving instead of being allowed to die off from natural selection.
* [instead of warning people away from vaccines because some may be inherently harmful, like the ones anecdotally linked to autism]
All that said, bear in mind that in flu pandemics of centuries past, a significant portion of the fatalities were college age people with strong, robust immune systems that overreacted to the flu and ended up killing them. Had they been small children or old people with weakened immune systems, they might have lived. Damned if ya do, Damned if ya don't....
Check out this graph. The dotted line represents the age distribution of deaths from a normal 'seasonal' flu. The solid line represents the H1N1 pandemic of 1918. Normally flu mainly kills reallyreally young kids whose immune systems are physically and experientially weak, and reallyreally old folks who are just plain weak in general. But in 1918, something like 50% of the deaths were people between age 20 and 40, coz their badass immune systems didn't know when to quit.
iekobrid
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No time soon. Apparently, God hates Higgs particles.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html
Loren Littlejohn
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H1N1 was infinitely worse than any flu I've ever had. Completely knocked me out for 2 1/2 weeks. Never, ever in my life have I ever been a puker when I've been sick. With H1N1 there was impressive amounts of vomiting, fevers that wouldn't break, chest pains, the worst headaches of my life, throwing up out of the back end, dizziness, and my throat felt like it was the size of a watermelon. I had to take double doses of tylenol every four hours just to be able to stand up without my head feeling like it was going to explode.
All that said, I didn't get vaccinated. For an adult it's nothing that rest and proper nutrition can't cure. If I had it to do over again though, I might decide differently.
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That`s hard to know, i know it can get that strong, but again i`ve had similar sympthoms with flu, just right where the hype started here, i had flu and i was in bed for a week, not that hard but i guess is diferent from person to person, i know recent cases of kids (sons of a close person) who had h1n1 and they went fine, just with resting and proper care.
Is great that you are Ok now.
Is great that you are Ok now.
Yes good you're ok now. But sincerely, how many people are k.o. for 2 weeks because they have a bad influenza? I mean, only in italy every year died 9000 peoples for the normale influenza!
And I don't understand why a guy has to do the vaccine every year for the normal influenza. Because he doesn't go sick? The fever is only the reaction of our body against internal attacks. Every fever we have, we improve our strenght against viruses etc... this is the reason why when you have the fever, you have to let it works and not take immediately an Aulin, etc...at least, not until it becomes intolerable
And I don't understand why a guy has to do the vaccine every year for the normal influenza. Because he doesn't go sick? The fever is only the reaction of our body against internal attacks. Every fever we have, we improve our strenght against viruses etc... this is the reason why when you have the fever, you have to let it works and not take immediately an Aulin, etc...at least, not until it becomes intolerable
Erkan
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Well I haven't gotten vaccinated against anything since I was a little kid like 10 years ago or so, so I see no reason why I should get vaccinated against something less lethal than the yearly flu. It's all just hyped up bull shit. The more people stress the fact that everyone "must" get vaccinated, the more it makes me believe it's just bull. I even got information sent to my house by mail from swedish authorities, about the flu and that every person needs to take the vaccine and stop being selfish and shit. Made me laugh quite hard.
Btw, I like how this thread keeps parallell conversations about god and science AND conspiration theories (reptiles, faked virus etc.) hah
Btw, I like how this thread keeps parallell conversations about god and science AND conspiration theories (reptiles, faked virus etc.) hah
