Help with mixing single

[Mendel]

Hello theeerre!,

At the moment i am mixing a single for my band and the only thing that is really struggling me is the snare. I am very close to buy steven slate 3.5 platinum but i was wondering: You can use it as a vst and stand alone but what if i only want to use certain samples of it like the snare? Is that possible?

Second: Does anyone here have some tips on mixing the snare.
When I listen to the snare of Shogun (trivium) for an example im blown away.

with regards,

Mendel

 

[Backe]

be shure not to make it bodyless and thin, material dependant really, but snares seem to do good with a small 200hz boost, and for crisp you could boost it pretty wide at like 10 khz or something. do not high shelf it, just adds noise. and do a high-pass at like 100hz aswell.

as far as compressors go, the smack is in the attack. you'll find it at like +- 15ms. what i do is i use Waves RComp, set the ratio to 50:1, then i drag the threshold down to find the perfect balance between smack and thrash, then i roll back the ratio to like 6-7:1 somewhere. then i bring the back-end limiter up a tad. sometimes i use a clipper on there aswell, and i've also found a cool Distressor-ish vst from Modern Plugins which i put last in the chain to give it some color and harmonic content.

reverbs are important too. i mostly use Slate-samples (Snare 3 is awesome) with Drumagog. i run two instances of drumagog, first Z1 which is the close mic, and then Z4 at a fairly low blend, it's like the room/chamber-sample so it gives like a natural sounding verb. then i have a verb in an FX channel, which feeds both the snare and the toms. i just use RoomWorks (Cubase 5) and highpass it at 200hz to get rid of low-end rumble. using a verb as a send for both snare and toms can make a drumkit sound more like a kit.

this is just what i do, but i hope it helps!

 

[HeadCrusher]

What seetings are you using for Roomworks? Haven't had much luck getting a sound out of it I liked...

 

[ahjteam]

Second: Does anyone here have some tips on mixing the snare. When I listen to the snare of Shogun (trivium) for an example im blown away.

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/455232-pro-tools-back-lash.html

 

[Mendel]

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/455232-pro-tools-back-lash.html

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be shure not to make it bodyless and thin, material dependant really, but snares seem to do good with a small 200hz boost, and for crisp you could boost it pretty wide at like 10 khz or something. do not high shelf it, just adds noise. and do a high-pass at like 100hz aswell.

as far as compressors go, the smack is in the attack. you'll find it at like +- 15ms. what i do is i use Waves RComp, set the ratio to 50:1, then i drag the threshold down to find the perfect balance between smack and thrash, then i roll back the ratio to like 6-7:1 somewhere. then i bring the back-end limiter up a tad. sometimes i use a clipper on there aswell, and i've also found a cool Distressor-ish vst from Modern Plugins which i put last in the chain to give it some color and harmonic content.

reverbs are important too. i mostly use Slate-samples (Snare 3 is awesome) with Drumagog. i run two instances of drumagog, first Z1 which is the close mic, and then Z4 at a fairly low blend, it's like the room/chamber-sample so it gives like a natural sounding verb. then i have a verb in an FX channel, which feeds both the snare and the toms. i just use RoomWorks (Cubase 5) and highpass it at 200hz to get rid of low-end rumble. using a verb as a send for both snare and toms can make a drumkit sound more like a kit.

this is just what i do, but i hope it helps!

Thanks for the tips! Will use them!
Could you be a bit more specific on the roomworks verb ? Using plates 3 sec or something else?

 

[ahjteam]

Post of the year

what I am hinting is get the ssd/trigger and be done with it.

 

[LeSedna]

Don't get the trivium post (didn't listen to any other album than the first).

Did they used SSD snares ?

 

[Mendel]

what I am hinting is get the ssd/trigger and be done with it.

i think I will. But how does it work?
On the website it says it can be used as a vst and stand alone.
But what if i only want to use a snare in drumagog?

Does SSD have a gog or wav library or something?

 

[006]

Trigger works just like Drumagog... only better.

 

[LeSedna]

If you want a VSTi, buy SSD

If you wanna do sample replaceent, buy Trigger.

Both come with slate samples.