greyskull
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spot on as usual matey.
Since i got the music production tool kit; i've never run out of tracks.
help with pro tools LE
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spot on as usual matey.
Since i got the music production tool kit; i've never run out of tracks.
Aaron Smith
Envisage Audio
I've been meaning to get the music production toolkit, but I haven't found the need to be incredibly urgent. I'm actually still running Pro Tools 6.7 on OSX 10.3.5, haha. I went to this Digidesign tour back when Pro Tools 7 came out, to learn about all the new features, and at the time I didn't really see anything that seemed like a must-have...but a few versions into 7 now, I can see a lot of really cool stuff I would love to have at my fingertips, like elastic audio. I'm just not very eager to tackle the stupid compatibility issues that can come with upgrading the OS and all corresponding software!
AdamWathan
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Nobody ever had any problems recording bands for 50 years before Beat Detective came along... I'd rather move a couple of hits around manually if there's some mistakes here and there. If a drummer can't convincingly make it through a song with only a handful of mistakes regardless of how many takes you let him have, then obviously he needs to get back to the woodshed and practice, or if for some reason he's having an off day, then I'd rather try and track again the next day because actually pulling it off 90% perfectly is going to sound better than chopping it up and quantizing it anyways. Or you could go back and punch in over any mistakes. As a guitarist I always try and record songs from start to finish perfectly in one take, I don't like punching in or chopping things up and pitch shifting notes I hit wrong, I'd rather just retrack until I get it. Why are drummers allowed to suck just because it's easy to edit their parts? Might as well program them in the first place if you're going to have to use Beat Detective, because at the end of the day it's a fake performance anyways.
Sinister Mephisto
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I just want to mention that 50 years ago drummers weren't playing quite the same way they are now.
As far as I'm concerned, it is my job to make the band sound as good as possible, if that means beat detective, so be it.
As far as I'm concerned, it is my job to make the band sound as good as possible, if that means beat detective, so be it.
I love Pro Tools LE, I do find it an incredibly intuitive and easy-to-use program...
...I just hate the interfaces you have to get to use it
...I just hate the interfaces you have to get to use it
broken81
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Cubase, Reaper, Sonar, Digital Performer and Logic can ALL reamp at 4x, 8x and 12x. That's just a Pro Tools issue...
Thats actually cool.
Wonder if that effects the sound much though? :Smug:
AdamWathan
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I just want to mention that 50 years ago drummers weren't playing quite the same way they are now.
As far as I'm concerned, it is my job to make the band sound as good as possible, if that means beat detective, so be it.
Personally I think it's my job to capture the most accurate represenation of a band's sound and put it on record. Sure, tonally you want it to sound as good as possible, but if you are manipulating the performance then it isn't the same band.
To be fair though I've never been put through the torment of recording an absolutely piss poor band like a lot of you guys probably have, and it looks bad on you if you put out a CD that sounds like shit because the band members couldn't play their instruments. I just know that if I was recording my own band, I wouldn't tolerate any performance that was bad enough to require quantizing to a grid. Terrible musicians are the ones to blame here, not the engineers who use the technology. It just sucks that technology is making it easier and easier for any dumb ass kid to sound like Derek Roddy on record without having to spend 8 hours a day practicing. There's supposed to be honesty and integrity in music, it's an art...
Loren Littlejohn
Lover of all boobage.
He was you always have to reamp in real time unless using a plug in! 
But seriously I can't stand pro tools LE for recording. Mixing and editing on it is the tits otherwise it can go fuck it's self.
But seriously I can't stand pro tools LE for recording. Mixing and editing on it is the tits otherwise it can go fuck it's self.
egan.
daylightdies.com
I always have to question statements like this. Do you overdub? Do you sample replace? Do you have more guitar tracks playing at a given time than you have guitar players? Do you have multiple tracks of one guy singing w/ himself? All of these things constitute manipulating a performance and are perversions of an "accurate representation of a band's sound" and yet they are pretty uncontroversial methodologies. A true accurate representation would be the old jazz method of a bunch of guys in a room w/ no overdubs. Obviously this is unrealistic for modern metal.
Aaron brought up the 'off day' situation. This is a good point and is certainly significant when deadlines and budgets are in play.
But what about the fantastic take that has some retarded tight meshuggah double bass? No drummer--even great ones-- has perfectly even double bass. You can get really sanctimonious or you can accept that these parts have been 'helped' on virtually every commercial release. I promise no listener would say "listen to how organic his playing is there" if the detected imperfections in the performance. IME metal fans are generally hyper critical of this stuff.
I think too often when people hear "beat detective" and "autotune" they think...totally fake and edited start to finish when this doesn't have to be the case.
broken81
Used by Protools
broken81
Used by Protools
you say potatoes, i say potaaaatoes lets just call it lunch!!!!!! doesnt matter what software you use as long as the results sound good. I use logic and i don`t want to get you guys started with that!!!!
