some of you folks dislike a band once they attain a certain level of success. if nevermore played ozzfest or sold a decent amount of records im sure some of you would whine about it. thats the way it seems to me. the last couple nevermore albums were kinda disappointing(as was arch enemy;s doomsday machine) but it has nothing to do with success level. i will give nevermore another chance when they do a new album. im glad i gave arch enemy another chance!