HOLY FUCK! the new arch enemy is phenomenal

[Mr.Sabado]

indeed. i really wish i had something better to do than be on this forum.

 

[Burti]

Tony, I'm not getting the New AE, sadly.

Trying to find the Human album and buy it, and waiting for Colors (BTBAM, yeah, I dig them, or at least the way the new album is sounding).

 

[Mr.Sabado]

dang, well maybe john will

 

[Malergion]

Yep, everyone can have an opinion. That said, not all of them are worth respecting.

That's putting it mildly.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

Not quite, but the meaning was imparted nonetheless.

Perhaps when compared to the limited sphere of Arch Enemy's own back catalogue the record stands up quite well, but that's a narrow way to look at it. Given the genre, it's banal. Given musical endeavour in general it's absolutely throwaway.

god damn it i gotta edit this fuckin thing


the first 3 or 4 ae albums destroy this record.....the point though, is that this record is better than their last TWO. thats it. and sure, it's banal. there's nothing new here...but name one recent scandanavian melodeath album that is anything new or groundbreaking? all of it sounds the same... its just a matter of who can write the best riffs pretty much. maybe the new dimension zero will be something refreshing if they have their asses on straight this time around. kalmah's last release, while strong, was nowhere near swampsong or they will return.....

and what the hell do you impose by saying it's a throwaway album given musical endeavour in general? are you trying to say they didnt try hard enough while writing the record? could u have tried harder? these are some of the most dynamic ae songs ive heard in a while!

 

[neal]

and sure, it's banal. there's nothing new here...but name one recent scandanavian melodeath album that is anything new or groundbreaking? all of it sounds the same

so why even bother? go listen to Black Earth, Colony, The Gallery, Steelbath Suicide, Terminal Spirit Disease, Swamplord, Hatebreeder etc. instead of some shitty new watered down version!

MELODIC DEATH IS DEAD

listen to the old good shit and move on.

 

[Burti]

Hey, if Cynic's new CD is anywhere near as good as Focus, then maybe it can kickstart the genre. Doubt it though.

 

[Metal head87]

Hey, if Cynic's new CD is anywhere near as good as Focus, then maybe it can kickstart the genre. Doubt it though.

There's a new song (from a live show) on Youtube. If the rest of the album is even a third as good, it will be an unbelievable album

 

[Mr.Sabado]

yeah i saw a video of angela in the studio and it played one of the new songs and it was epic

 

[derek]

god damn it i gotta edit this fuckin thing


the first 3 or 4 ae albums destroy this record.....the point though, is that this record is better than their last TWO. thats it. and sure, it's banal. there's nothing new here...but name one recent scandanavian melodeath album that is anything new or groundbreaking? all of it sounds the same... its just a matter of who can write the best riffs pretty much. maybe the new dimension zero will be something refreshing if they have their asses on straight this time around. kalmah's last release, while strong, was nowhere near swampsong or they will return.....

and what the hell do you impose by saying it's a throwaway album given musical endeavour in general? are you trying to say they didnt try hard enough while writing the record? could u have tried harder? these are some of the most dynamic ae songs ive heard in a while!

You really do get easily riled, don't you?

I'd agree that this record is better than the last two, but I'm saying judging it on those merits is a pretty narrow method of review.

Where the Scandinavian-Melodeath connection came in, I have no idea. Where did you pull that non sequitur out from?

My intention in calling it a throwaway record seems quite self evident. Set into the context of musical endeavour (i.e. the effort, strain and true artistry that goes into some musical releases) this one seems fucking pale. I don't see why my "trying harder" comes into it. That bullshit argument has, and apparently still is, employed by dip-shits the world over. I can't fucking make a blender but if I buy a shit one that can't get the grainy texture out of my smoothies, I'm gonna be pissed at the guy that did make it.

Regardless of how hard they tried, they've managed to just slip into mediocrity. How many times can they explore the same lyrical concepts, set to the same musical stylings? They're at the point now where it's just plain bad.

 

[incarnated-solvent-abuse]

Hey, if Cynic's new CD is anywhere near as good as Focus, then maybe it can kickstart the genre. Doubt it though.

???

How, in the name of arse are Cynic considered melodic death?

 

[Burti]

Can you define for me in the name of this, "arse" that so many Scots are keen to throw at me from boards all around, what Cynic is then, Incarnated-Solvent-Abuse?

 

[Metal head87]

Cynic's demo material was technical death metal.
Focus was a prog/fusion album with occasional throat vocals

 

[Jeff-Loomis-fan]

i like arch enemy and cant wait for the new album

 

[incarnated-solvent-abuse]

Can you define for me in the name of this, "arse" that so many Scots are keen to throw at me from boards all around, what Cynic is then, Incarnated-Solvent-Abuse?

/\ What Metal Head 87 said.

 

[MFJ]

Of course some would whine about it, but Arch Enemy has been successful since Wages of Sin and most people (except the Angela haters) seem to be fine with it or even *gasp* think it's a good album.

The truth is, some bands cave to the pressure of numbers when they become popular and change their sound accordingly. There's nothing wrong with it, it's called capitalism. But the music will inevitably suffer when too much creative control is given to those not in the band.

nah, I think Arch Enemy is just a really shitty band now. If Nevermore played Ozzfest and whatnot, it wouldn't make their music change and become poor.