How do you handle 2 kick drums?

[farside]

I have a band coming in and I know the drummer has 2 kick drums. I only have 1 D6, and although I'm triggering it, I still think they might end up sounding different.

Any way around this other than buying another D6?

 

[JeffTD]

If it's triggered, don't even bother. Sample his best kick and replace away. If it involves dropping 200 for another mic, I'd just trigger it.

The only thing that could cause a difference in sound might be a difference in tension causing mistriggers on one and not the other? That'd be really weird, but it's the only thing I could think of.

 

[Nebulous]

Trigger the kicks, but only use the sample of the D6. If the drummer hasn't tuned them properly/ exactly they will sound shit unless you use the same sample on both.
That's what i'd do anyway.

 

[Ermz]

I don't really understand.

If you have triggers available to you. Trigger both drums. Make sure to sample one of them at various velocities (prolly the one he hits with his right foot). Then later sample replace both tracks with the samples you'd made.

Keep the D6 on the right-foot one for the session so if there's any slower parts that you don't need triggering for, you can just take the natural signal from the mic.

If you don't have triggers available to you, just use a D6 on one and a 57 or something on the other, just to get the attack, so you have something to trigger off down the track.

 

[farside]

Keep the D6 on the right-foot one for the session so if there's any slower parts that you don't need triggering for, you can just take the natural signal from the mic.

This will work, thank you. I'm using Drumagog, not physical triggers. I usually just blend the natural sound with a trigger sound ...but I'll use sound replacer on all his hits first. Dont know why I didn't think of that

Would you usually just route both mic's to 1 track? ...Or use a seperate track for each kick? ...I dont imagine it would matter unless there are some unforseen issues I'm not thinking of.

 

[Ermz]

Keep them on two seperate tracks. If there's a lot of double bass stuff and its routed down to one track on the way down you can get mis-triggers and shit. 2 tracks is easier for Drumagog to handle.

 

[LSD-Studio]

only problem witgh 2 kicks can be the bleed on the oh.

 

[Asmus_Thomsen]

only problem witgh 2 kicks can be the bleed on the oh.

Not really, just take out the low end (up to say around 600cycles, depending on what you like and what you need - that's what I always do - i really find that my OH sound a lot better without kickdrum in them) - of course it's a matter of personal taste

 

[LSD-Studio]

Not really, just take out the low end (up to say around 600cycles, depending on what you like and what you need - that's what I always do - i really find that my OH sound a lot better without kickdrum in them) - of course it's a matter of personal taste

right, but the kickdrum goes higher than 600hz.
an that are the regions that are important for the localisation of sounds.
so when you record without a reso-head for example you might have some problems with crosstalk.

not that's it sooo bad or impossible to get a good sound, but i still prefer to record with a single kick and place the overheads so it sits in the middle

 

[scorpio01169]

Would you usually just route both mic's to 1 track?

althought i dont use a daw for tracking, if you are using a daw....how do you do that? i thought the only way to get two sources on one track was to bounce or mixdown both tracks to one.

 

[JeffTD]

right, but the kickdrum goes higher than 600hz.
an that are the regions that are important for the localisation of sounds.
so when you record without a reso-head for example you might have some problems with crosstalk.

not that's it sooo bad or impossible to get a good sound, but i still prefer to record with a single kick and place the overheads so it sits in the middle

It's pretty easy to put blankets over them, or just leave them be as a blur in the OH's. The triggered sound will more than cover up the kicks from the OH in a mix.

 

[Seizure.]

I have this problem too...

I will be recording a extreme deathmetalband in some time now.

I will prolly (i'm sure realy hehehe) NOT use the mics, so why sacrife 1 valuable mic and mic input/preamp if you can record the trigger too just 1?

 

[Nebulous]

This will work, thank you. I'm using Drumagog, not physical triggers. I usually just blend the natural sound with a trigger sound ...but I'll use sound replacer on all his hits first. Dont know why I didn't think of that

Would you usually just route both mic's to 1 track? ...Or use a seperate track for each kick? ...I dont imagine it would matter unless there are some unforseen issues I'm not thinking of.

Oh, it sounded as though you had physical triggers.