how is trophy hunting not illegal?

[John_C]

Killing for food: if you're prepared to do it yourself then fine. I mean it's not really morally defensible (if you really take it to the limits) but it's a very big part of what we are as humans

killing for self-defence: go for it

killing for fun: I want to organise some serious hunting expeditions, with big game hunters as prey. See how they like it.

 

[Derykus]

Guys guys guys, you really have never hung your coat up on a freshly mounted deer head? It's an amazing feeling.

My mink coat; yes I have. It's almost as good as sitting my fat americunt ass down on my ostrich leather car seats.

My n my wife (2nd cuzin) like to rub our grizzly bear head mount for good luck in the mornings.












OK you guys are right. The more I think about it, the more I just can't stand these people. TBH I never really thought of the type of people that do this shit, and I never thought what it would be like to have stuffed animals in my house. Now that I have, yes, these people ARE retarded. But suggesting these hunters be killed for it is ludicrous.

 

[P-E]

Come on guys, obvious troll is obvious.

If Derykus ends up being serious then fuck him.

edit: i guess i didn't read last post.

 

[Wolfeman]

I've always had this opinion on the issue-

The only thing worse than a senseless animal killer are the people who strongly oppose them.

Sometimes it's fun to sit back, crack open a beer, and watch the two sides duke it out. They are equally just as bad, and I've recently started taking this viewpoint on many of the worlds issues. Ever seen Whale Wars? What a bunch of crackpots(the Japanese whale killers AND the whale lovers). Makes for great entertainment.

 

[P-E]

Not true. Because one side at least defends what's right.

They aren't "equally just as bad", and I, for one, definitely dig the work the Sea Shepherd (might be the whale lovers you mention) do against the Japanese whale killers.

 

[kvoid]

Unless you intend to eat the kill, you're pretty obviously a deviant in my books. Or have repressed sexual molestation history. That's how it usually goes. Go seek therapy, should be less expensive than your next big game hunt trip.

I really think venison sucks but for a long time it was the only meat I could afford. Couple of bullets and some nasty business later there's meat in the freezer for a month!. But I digress.

Then again in China tiger testicles are a delicacy...but so is whale in Japan and Norway. Which is fucked cause they're killing them to extinction. I think every person that eats meat should, at least once, be given the pleasure of slaughtering the animal he intends to eat himself. There'd be a lot more vegetarians in this world I'll tell you that.

 

[ahjteam]

at least in Finland you need a license to hunt for bears and mooses, which are the biggest animals in the country

 

[Derpsicle]

Don't get why it should be illegal...
It's a fucking fun game!

 

[midget donkeys]

All hunting is of course not the same. Killing endangered whales is a lot different than hunting deer in Ohio where the population is excessively high due to a lack of natural predators. The number of deer permits issued is how the herd size is regulated. Intelligently regulated hunting seems more humane to me than cattle farms.

I don't hunt (because I am lazy), but I do eat meat constantly so it would be ridiculous to oppose hunting. I wonder how many people up in arms about hunting in general in this thread eat meat?

As for the heads on a wall I don't see a problem with it. It’s not like somebody is going to eat a deer or moose head. Well somebody might but not me. Keeping it on the wall is just a memento from their kill like taking pictures of dead enemy soldiers.:Smokedev:

 

[Scott Horner]

I live in Texas so it is nothing new to me to walk into someone's house and see dead animals hanging from the walls. I have friends that hunt and actually eat what they kill but then there are also the stupid fucking rednecks whose idea of a good time is to load up on Skoal and beer and just go driving around shooting shit. My real gripe, and something I don't really understand, are these game reserves. Exotic animals are imported into some fenced off acreage simply so some rich dude can come pay $1,500 to sit around a feeder and lure these animals in just to shoot it in the heart so he can brag to his other rich friends about how he camped out in the wilderness and brought down this amazing animal in the "wild". That, I do not get. It seems as though that would take all the pride and skill out of actually going to the animal's native area and tracking it down. Not that I necessarily agree with that either but it seems like hunting in these game reserves is the equivalent of using EZ-mix on some audio tracks and bragging about how you are an audio engineer. There is no skill or pride associated with it.

 

[grywolf627]

...but it seems like hunting in these game reserves is the equivalent of using EZ-mix on some audio tracks and bragging about how you are an audio engineer. There is no skill or pride associated with it.

This is probably the best comment I've seen so far in this thread.

 

[amarshism]

Anyone heard that strange faces song from mixit over at the womb. This thread fully makes me wanna go take another pass at it.

 

[kass]

Killing for food: if you're prepared to do it yourself then fine. I mean it's not really morally defensible (if you really take it to the limits) but it's a very big part of what we are as humans

It is not morally defensible to eat?

 

[timislegend]

animals kill for sport too.


and we are just animals.

 

[John_C]

It is not morally defensible to eat?

Don't deny it, we don't need to kill animals to eat. Being a vegetarian works just fine.

So basically we (rich western world people, we're not talking about people who have to eat meat to survive) are killing animals because we like how they taste.

It doesn't stop me eating meat, same as working conditions in the far east don't stop me buying electronics goods! I guess I'm just uncaring like that

animals kill for sport too.


and we are just animals.

and we shouldn't aspire to be anything more than the particular bits of the animal kingdom we cherry pick to support our arguments?

 

[midget donkeys]

I recommend people eating meat. It is very difficult and expensive to be a vegetarian. Few individuals are willing to take the time and discipline necessary to eat balanced vegetarian meals.

I have never been introduced to a vegetarian with a strong body. Their protein intact is far to low to build significant strength. I have seen the effect of a vegetarian doing vigorous exercise over a period of several months and he got weaker and weaker due to the low level of protein his diet. It was literally breaking down his own body and killing him.

When I meet somebody that lives off of only vegetables that can deadlift 300 lbs I will convert. Until then pass me the deliciously murdered animal.

 

[Limak]

Win in a melee combat versus some huge damn bear and I could stand you showing off trophies from this. But when you shoot harmless animals from within safe range just for the heck of it and then brag about it then you are a goddamn pussy.

 

[Line666]

I recommend people eating meat. It is very difficult and expensive to be a vegetarian. Few individuals are willing to take the time and discipline necessary to eat balanced vegetarian meals.

I have never been introduced to a vegetarian with a strong body. Their protein intact is far to low to build significant strength. I have seen the effect of a vegetarian doing vigorous exercise over a period of several months and he got weaker and weaker due to the low level of protein his diet. It was literally breaking down his own body and killing him.

When I meet somebody that lives off of only vegetables that can deadlift 300 lbs I will convert. Until then pass me the deliciously murdered animal.

Vegetarian is easy to get the protein in; you've still got milk, eggs, you can still take in whey protein shakes, peanut butter + wholemeal bread forms a complete protein as well. It's not expensive (carbs are much cheaper than proteins), its easier to get the calories in and the proteins listed are all cheaper than buying beef (in my experience).

Veganism is harder because most of the above disappear and you are left with legumes and soy protein but it is still possible if you have your shit in order, check these guys:

http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_topher

I see what you're saying though because I have known a few guys that have gone vegetarian or vegan and have just dropped a huge portion of their diet and not adequately replaced it with anything - I think thats why you see these malnourished looking guys and its mostly because of complacency in their moral crusade.

Just to clarify I am not vegetarian or vegan, but I have bulked on a mostly vegetarian diet (large amounts of beef really fucks with my digestion) and tuna is quite expensive (especially now, prices took a huge bump) but even without either I was still getting in 200g of protein a day.

 

[timislegend]

and we shouldn't aspire to be anything more than the particular bits of the animal kingdom we cherry pick to support our arguments?

killing is a pure instinct that we have strayed from (in a modernity perspective). we are as much prey now as we were predators then and some people identify with that more so than others.

we can fill it with psychology and rhetoric all day ... but survival of the fittest is a large component of natural selection.

if you believe in evolution, you cannot challenge the kill; it's in everyone whether we aspire or not. we have been game killers for thousands of years (and longer).


*personally, i agree that there must be a balance and to overthrow nature simply for the sport can become arrogant but to deny a primal instinct as a remote possibility is just as arrogant.

but as someone said before, it offsets population.

 

[~BURNY~]

killing is a pure instinct that we have strayed from (in a modernity perspective).

Yeah so is rape... What's your point?