Yeah, ok. But I'm a little confused as to what exactly are supposed to count as human rights and what are supposed to count as these so-called animal rights you speak of.
for one, humans have the right to 'life' and not to be cruel and unusaully punished, or enslaved.
animals on the other hand, can kill or be killed, torment their prey, and homo sapians of course enslave countless animals for our own service. All I ask is that humans be given the right to treat the homo sapian as he has the right to treat all other animals, in other words, this delusion of 'rights' vanishing. I make no request for an end to liberty or law, merely the delusion that there is something that by way of being human is deserved, as if we have no right to die or be killed. (no one who speaks of our 'self-evident' rights bothers to say from whence they came)
What exactly would we be giving up if we were to give up human rights in your sense?
our pretense war is "just" but terrorism is "wrong" for one.
What about the right not to be tortured or killed by your government because of dissent? Is that a human right? That seems to be one invoked by people who speak of human rights.
well of course it's invoked by people who speak of human rights, but that doesn't say anything about our actually having human rights.
Do you want to give up that one and similar rights?
that, similar, all...
Would giving that up make the world a better place to live in?
Equality is never better. It's why we've throughout history never wanted equality, we want control and power because it makes the world a better place for us. gays and blacks and children and women, before they were seen as equal the world was a much better place... for us.
but again, I'm not saying much would change, keep law and liberty, just because we drop the pretense that governments have no right to torture suspected whoevers doesn't mean we would allow them to do it (since we ourselves would fear being regarded as such suspects) and in a national army like the US military, (rather than the peoples army like in China) the government wouldn't even have the force to sustain such oppression because even these people would not want such a thing to occur. Apply the notion in a thousand situations and the world doesn't change, it merely drops a baseless delusion.
Sure, eliminating people like rapists might seem like a helpful thing, but I'm not necessarily worried about stuff like that.
what are your concerns? I've been thinking/writing about this for a fair amount of time now, I'm sure I can address them.
