This forum thread is like Aushchwitz, minus the laughter that would normally ensue. Rather, it is just a major atrocity showcasing the sad butchering of Hypocrisy's best work and raising on a pedestal Hypocrisy's sellout shit. I love Peter Tagtgren, I love Hypocrisy, and I pray that some day Peter will find it in his blackened, evil, metal loving soul to return to Hypocrisy's roots. Catch22 and The Arrival, if none of you are aware, is some of the least technical, most boring, and utterly empty "music" I've ever heard. Penetralia through the self titled cds all had passion, agression, and technicality, throughout the changes Hypocrisy went through. Into the Abyss was the first real sign of trouble, as Deathrow is perhaps the only song that still felt and sounded like older Hypocrisy (the self titled at that, so not much older), and Catch 22 and on (thus far) have been nothing but demeaning attempts to sell more albums to 14 year olds so they can put it between their Disturbed and Mudvayne cds. Every single song off of Catch22, and every single song off of The Arrival(with the onyl exception being The Abyss) are some of the worst songs I have ever heard....ever.