I was recently thinking back to that stupid and pointless S & M symphony with Metallica bullshit, and I thought, HOLY SHIT, how awsome would it be if Symph X could get a fuckin symphony orchestra to rerecord V and play some gigs with em. With all the brilliant orchestration that they already got in their music, using a real symphony would make it sooooooo epic and ill. The problem is, how much would it cost? I dont think Symph X has that much money, but OMG, if it ever happened, I would pay at least $250 to see a show like that. (drool) Who's with me? We should raise money! Make it happen! Bow to the X!
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Yngtchie Blacksteen
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It would've been awesome. They could start the show with some heavy, orchestra-less songs, such as ...Of Sins And Shadows, Smoke And Mirrors, King Of Terrors etc etc. Then they could play V with the orchestra, and use The Odyssey as the closing song... Imagine The Odyssey, live with a symphony orchestra! They could film it all and release it on DVD, Symphony X's first.
theodyssey
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karelrulez
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Luis
Mortal With Immortal Mind
For me isnt a dream, what id like to see / hear is a real full orchetra playing orchestal versions of some songs like Fallen or Egypt but with out the band. As a matter of fact, im working in an orchestal version of Inferno.
Demonspell
cheating the polygraph
As long as we're on the subject, what would you rather hear: an SX concert accompanied by a full orchestra, or the band employing the orchestra on their next studio album and writing songs with symphonic arrangements in mind?
Knight of the Templar
PEAC EOUT!!
Both!!! Make a spectacular orchestra concert... make a spectacular orchestra album! 
That would be a dream!
That would be a dream!
As long as it doesn't sound as bad as Metallica's did. Wow those songs annoyed the crap out of me! I just would only want that for songs off of V and including the song Odyssey. I don't think they should take songs they already have that have no orchestra sound whatsoever and try to orchestrate it. Listening to the new Adagio makes me want to see them play with a full orchestra even more though, especially Underworld.
there's no way that it would sound anywhere near as bad and stupid as metallica and symphony did. It will sound sooooo much cooler, thats a 100% percent chance right there. I'm completely serious about this. We have to make the dream a reality. There's got to be a way. I also agree with only doing V, and the song The Odyssey, and maybe a couple of tracks on divine wings. If I had to, I would settle for just an orchestra playing their songs, but we gotta get ewm to play with an orchestra.
Yngvai X
Dark Emperor
I think Romeo has said that he doesn't ever want to record with an orchestra...he feels the sound samples are good enough nowadays that he likes to just do it all himself. I guess it costs less money that way too.
scanner313
The EYE
Luis said:
No offense Luis, but why would you want to hear these songs performed WITHOUT the band? It makes no sense. These songs aren't structured to be orchestral pieces on their own (not even Odysseus' Theme).
The reason the Metallica thing was so lame was because their music had no reason to incorporate an orchestra. It sounded stupid (IMO) to hear them play some of their better songs only to have them accented (and not very well, again IMO) by an orchestra.
Having an orchestra to play with SyX makes perfect sense because many of their songs (on V in particular) use orchestral accents that were intended to be used in the song. Although it's not my favorite SyX song, I think hearing the Odyssey would be mind blowing with an orchestra. I would love to hear them perform the entire V album using a real orchestra and choir for the vocal arrangements. That would be incredible. And then to fill in the time of a full show they could perform the Odyssey (song). 2 brilliant pieces by the God's of metal.
Anyway, I'm not dumping on you, I just don't understand why you would want to take SyX out of the equation. Remove Russell and it would seem that many of the verses would be a little drawn out and boring. It's like a cover band without a vocalist doing a song. It just doesn't work.
scanner313
The EYE
I don't think there is any question that using the orchestration equipment Romeo uses is a million times easier than trying to orchestrate a symphony and record it. I don't think there is any reason to record with an orchestra, but the perform live with one is something I'm sure he would love to do. How could you be such a huge classical music fan, incorporate lots of it into your own music, and not want to perform with a real orchestra? It wouldn't make sense. Recording and album, however, is another story. Unless of course it was a live album of the performance.Yngvai X said:
And in response to someone's previous post, I agree that they should never try to incorporate an orchestra into songs that don't use one already. Honestly, I don't think they would have ever done that as they have enough material to cover it. Metallica had no choice as none of their music had orchestral pieces. That's why it was so stupid.
SilentRealm
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it doesnt make sense to hire an orchestra for recording purposes..but for a live show sometime if they ever had an orchestra.. i would sell my soul to raise the money to be at that concert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Luis
Mortal With Immortal Mind
Is that a Fact???scanner313 said:
I dont agree, If you are a good with the orchestra, you can create many colors just like Russell does with his voice. Tha main problem with this thing is that you need a lot of money to get a perfect sound mix, between the orchestra and the electric instrumets IMO
scanner313
The EYE
Yes, it is a fact. If they were intended to be simply orchestral arrangements, I think Mike Romeo would have written and recorded them under some other project name as pure symphonic arrangements. The fact is, he uses the orchestral arrangements to accent the music that SYMPHONY X plays which is heavy metal. He wrote it the way he wanted it. You can do whatever adaptation you want to make it purely orchestral, but that's obviously not what Mike Romeo had in mind. And why you would want to remove the creator(s) of the music from the mix and have someone else play it is a mystery to me. Maybe you just like classical music and not metal. Were you a fan of Apocolyptica, you know, the cellists who recorded Metallica songs all on cello? Well, I for one found this to be extremely boring and lame, and yes, SymphonyX's music is much more interesting, but I still am not at all interested in seeing some orchestra perform SyX's music without them. But hey, that's just me.Luis said:
Again, maybe you just want the classical music rather than the vocals and electric instruments. That's your perogative. But I would much prefer to have Russell actually singing the songs with the accompaniment of the rest of SyX. I don't want to hear instrumental adaptations of Russell's vocals. That's the classical equivalent of Musak! If the guys aren't involved, I don't want to hear it. If you do, fine. And nobody said it wasn't expensive to coordinate the mix between a metal band and orchestra, although I don't think it would be too unreasonable. The whole point of this thread was that people wanted to see SyX perform with an orchestra. If it's expensive, so what.Luis said:
Bottom line, if I heard some orchestra was rearranging their music to perform it without them I would not attend. But again, that's just me.
Prismatic Sphere
We Carouse
A symphony playing Symphony X just wouldn't be Symphony X would it?
But I'd still buy it.
I just wouldn't bother to go see it.
But I'd still buy it.
I just wouldn't bother to go see it.
scanner313
The EYE
I wouldn't do either.Prismatic Sphere said:
And you're right, somebody else doing their interpretation of SyX's music just isn't SyX. It's like these rap artists (and I use the term "artist" loosely) stealing samples from favous rock songs to build a foundation for their weak efforts. I'm not slamming all rap, as some of the groups are original (I guess?), but why would you mess with something that is great in it's own right? If something can be improved by redoing it, then do it as a tribute and do it well. If the original is great on it's own, leave it alone.
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