If you think Kirk Hammet is the best guitar player in the world...

First off, kirk hammett sucks. A lot. The only thing good he ever did was rip off DAVE MUSTAINE who wrote half the shit on kill em all and a few tunes on ride the lightning. And even then Hammett made mustaines solos sound like asshole. Also, i never saw the big deal with cliff. I mean, i used to love the guy, but i listen to their old stuff and there is not much impressive stuff going on basswise. One thing in metallica's defense though. I can definately understand them slowing down because... well, with a drummer as horrible as Lars, you can't play anything fast. Load and reload were made more out of necessity than want IMO. But there are some good songs on those albums. not great, but good. not metal either. i hate metallica. actually, the only thing i use my metallica albums for anymore is to hold the places of my other cds in my collection when they are not on the shelf lol. True story!
 
viking1065 said:
i think james wrote most of the riffs for metallica anyway,i liked metallica ten years ago but music has progressed a lot since then and metallica has not

I make these words my own, bud! :rock:

I may say that Metallica introduced me in the "metal world", it was my first band, and I have all their vinyl, such as all their CDs. But now the OLD Metallica's just a good past memory.

SYMPHONY X IS ATTACKING!!!!!!! :zombie:
 
Once upon a time, when the word metal didn't mean much, and the heaviest I'd listen to was Guns N' Roses (forgive me), I heard a record called The Black Album. And I loved it. And I loved Metallica.
Now I don't like any of them, but there should be some gratitude here, because, let's face it, we need bands such as Metallica. Not because they are a good band, but because they are popular. If there were no popular metal bands, no one would listen to metal. It would be a tiny underground thing hidden from a lot of people who could like it but just haven't had the chance to hear it.
Hopefully, after a while, you'll get over this crap and get into some better music. What I mean is that bands such as Metallica are like a gateway to metal for the people who don't have a father or mother who listened to Led Zeppelin. It's easy listening, not too hard to get into, and you're bound to get tired of it.
Conclusion: Don't try to make little girls listen to Symphony X right away, for them it's (like someone on the Stratovarius board said) too strange music. Most of them won't get it, and you won't get anything done.
On the other hand, if people are just plain stupid and want to listen to LimpBishit and Linkin Jerk, they aren't worthy of listening to the grand master voice of Sir Russell Allen. :notworthy
 
Metal is a tiny little underground thing hidden from a lot of people. Don't hold your breath waiting for Metallica to help out the cause. I remember everything Lars said in the old days, the guy is a master propagandist, He will suck you in and when he's done with you cut your throat. I don't care what their new album sounds like.
 
Metallica was great when they still had balls! The first album is a metal classic, as is the second. Master of Puppets was the album where they started to polish things a bit, but it was also the first sign of the end for them. Yeah, each of the last few albums have had a decent song or 2, but nothing that will ever become a Metallica "classic". And the worst thing they ever did was "Unforgiven 2". What a crappy song that shamed the original in just about every way possible. Just terrible! Thank god SyX made a great song with "Accolade II". That song is distinctly different from the first while still tying them together succesfully, IMO.

Metallica is only popular in the mainstream now because they've lost all traces of danger. They're pop metal now, which isn't something I'd want to be if I was them.

The only thing Metallica could do to regain any credibility (and I don't even know if this would work) would be to say "Fuck you" to their record company and make a totally thrashed out album like they used to. Of course, I don't think they could do it. They've lost their edge completely, again IMO.
 
Dado-x said:
Seriously, is there someone who actually believes Kirk Hammet is the best guitarist in the world???

If anyone here is in their early 30's and was a fan of metal back in the early 80's, just remember the polls in magazines like Hit Parader where Nikki Sixx was voted best bass player year after year. He was only given that title because people lived Motley Crue. I think that might answer the question asked above. I mean, don't get me wrong, you don't have to have great skill on your instrument to be a great musician. I believe it's more about your overall musical ability to create something pleasing to listen to, write good songs, etc. So we all know that "fan" polls don't mean anything. Kirk Hammet used to get the "Best Guitarist" award from metal fans all the time back in the late 80's. Now he's just getting the title from a different group of kids.

Nikki Sixx. Still unbelievable!
 
scanner313 said:
Metallica is only popular in the mainstream now because they've lost all traces of danger. They're pop metal now, which isn't something I'd want to be if I was them.

The only thing Metallica could do to regain any credibility (and I don't even know if this would work) would be to say "Fuck you" to their record company and make a totally thrashed out album like they used to. Of course, I don't think they could do it. They've lost their edge completely, again IMO.

I tend to agree ... I think with Justice, you could see gravitation towards the mainstream.
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haha ... the only thing that they could do would be to lose the tosser Cock Rock and go full blast speed trash, but somehow that is not something I expect from the new album. It might be different, it might be great, but it ain't MetallicA anymore.
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I don't know about you guys, but I've not been able to listen to MetallicA anymore, I can put Mop, RtL, KeA, or AJfA and it doesn't hold the same appeal as it did a long time ago:zzz:, but I can still put on V and still listen to it with the same enjoyment as I did the first time I heard it. MetallicA gets old after a few plays, but I can still put on old SX stuff and still feel the adreneline rush as the last time I heard it, and before that and before that .... etc.:Smokin:

Somehow I think this time MetallicA ought to take a leaf outta Mustaine's book and hang up their axes for good. At least there are some good memories from the initial albums.:waah:
 
I LOVE METALLICA AND I'M NOT ASHAMED OF IT !:rock:. I even like the Loads. Sorry, I have my own opinion :) I know it's trendy to say Metallica sux :p


EDIT: I understand that their new work is nothing compared to i.e. Master of Puppets.
 
Actually, I'm kinda sad that MetallicA has gone the way of mainstream. I don't know aobut you, but I didn't like Load at all, and I only liked The Memory Remains from ReLoad ... its the first ever Metal song I ever listened to.

Before that I listen to the crappy top10s cuz I didn't know what proper good music was ... then when I first heard The Memory Remains ... !:OMG: I knew that Metal was the only music I'd ever listen to ... well, not really, but it had that great of an impact then.
 
Wow, who knew this thread would be so popular. Yes, Romeo plays ESP, and I will too shortly :evil:
But you go over there and check around the message board, there is so much praise for Kirk and Jamz. People don't realize that if you have only been playing for 1 year, and you buy that KH-2 signature for $4000, you are still going to suck. There is a lot of praise for Jeff H from Slayer too. And, while I like Slayer up through Divine Intervention, Jeff is not a very good guitar player, though he is better than Kerry. Ignorance rules over there. However, there are some smart cookies when it comes to Tech stuff, so if you have any questions it is a good place to start. I know that Tatooed Carrot is quite knoweledgeable.
 
I can't afford the KH2 Vintage at any time soon ... but I'll probably be getting the KH2 ... sometime soon ...

It just looks cool ... although I'd rather settle for something decent from the JEM series if I could afford it ... and why is ESP evil???
 
I posted earlier saying metallica sucks (which they do IMO) but at the same time, they are necissary. They were the first band i listened to just like i assume they were for many of you. Because of them i got way into the other stuff... then i realized there is so much better stuff out there. Plus, lars is a pathetic excuse for a drummer. always has been.
 
the_satanic_rabbit said:
ESP is not evil, I was trying to put a devil face on the screen and I messed up. I though I could achieve this by writing :evil, but that doesn't work here, so I guess I gotta use this guy! :Smokedev:


Hehe ... i reckon ESP rocks ... cool guitars :Smokin:
 
when I 1st seen a pic. of the metallica guys when they 1st cut thier hair off i thought
"OMG!!!! please grew some hair back and cover those god awful faces!!"

heehee:grin:
just thought you would like to know that!!:rock::p
 
Stolen from the Tallica message boards (yes im a fan)

Close-up's Martin Carlsson leaves an exclusive report from the studio north of San Francisco where Metallica's working on their new album "St. Anger".

I swear on the bible, on my mother's grave or whatever - the following text is nothing less than the complete truth. This statement needs to be made, quite simply because you're probably not going to believe me. I almost wonder if I've really listened to the new Metallica album "St Anger" myself, or if somebody has been playing a trick on me and played me some new, exciting aggro-band. You see, "St. Anger" is a chock, one of music history's greatest! It is as if "Load" and "Reload" has been deleted from the map, as if the Black Album never existed, as if the Metallica we've come to know never really existed. The five songs (all of which are as of yet untitled but the title-track) I've heard exhibits a sound so EXTREME and raw that all you can do is sit there chocked with your jaw on the floor.

I'm not joking.

Twenty journalists are gathered in the control-room of the studio north of San Francisco. We get comfortable. The air is vibrating with excitement, and then? BAM!! The first song (working title: Frantic) kicks in with hypnotic, almost industrial Slayer-riffs. What the fuck is going on? "You live it or lie it", chants James Hetfield and goes on with "my lifestyle determines my death style". It is ultra-tight metalcore like it has never been performed before. Lars ulrich's fat drum-sound is replaced with an oilrig-similar snare that's usually reminiscent of robotic industry-metal. "Do I have the strength?", a wondering Hetfield screams in the middle of the chaos. It is a maddening Blitzkriegstrategy with attack-waves of battering riffs, attacking from every angle for five minutes and 54 seconds.

I'm not joking.

The war as just begun, and I really mean THE WAR, because this music would be the perfect soundtrack to the media coverage of the war on Iraq. The title-track blazes away with a ultra-fast bulldozermosh that leaves Max Cavalera far behind. We are talking monster-metallized punk from another planet; a twisted and overdosed Dischange just released from rehab! We are talking beyond sound-speed, especially regarding the drum-work. The double-bass pounds away mercilessly and Lars Ulrich's use of the snare are almost -get this!- blast-beats!! It's going to be interesting seeing him trying to repeat this live - if the dane is usually soaked from sweat and carried to the lodge after traditional concerts, then he's going to need an oxygen-mask and hospital personnel to wake him back to life after this. Following this amazing intro comes a softer part where Hetfield sings "St. Anger around my neck, he never gets respect." This ten second long part, recurring a couple of times in the seven minute and 24 second long song, is the only part that could be classified as soft. The Producer Bob Rock (also on bass) assures me that this is the calmest, most stripped-down part on the whole album. WOW! A riff similar to "Creeping Death" follows. Hetfield howls "Fuck it all and fucking no regrets" (an exact recapitulation of the classic in "Damage Inc."). Towards the end of the song he screams "I need to set my anger free"... and this is exactly what he and Metallica does: releasing all their anger.

I'm not joking.

Song number three starts up like an updated "Ride the Lightning": MEga-fat thrash-metal in midtempo speed. The vocalist spits: "It and you can look out motherfuckers, here I come!". Sepultura's "Roots"-era sound reminiscent in this song, with the refrain "It world" repeated again and again. Before the song ends at five minutes and 51 seconds, Hetfield shouts "enough, enough, enough"

I'm not joking.

Have you missed the complex song-structures of "And Justice for All"? Compared to this around eight minutes long piece (working title "Monster"), the songs of the 1988 album seem more like simple Ramones' ditties. A progressive blanket of sound that warms like a massive and super-intricate Tool, only a thousand times heavier! Hetfield chants over a delicious part that goes into what could be called a chorus with some use of fantasy: "We the people, are we the people?". This phrase is repeated two times and "some kind of monster" three times before the singer concludes "this monster lives". There is actually something here that could be called groove, not entirely unlike Pantera although vastly heavier. The guitars are so damned insane, so damned evil, so damned incredible! The fact is that there isn't anything remotely like a traditional guitar-solo in any of these five songs. Hetfield and Kirk Hammett use their instruments like surgical tools. The guitars shrieks and scream as if Tom Morello and Kerry King made a deal and decided to take the Devil's music not one but ten steps further.

I'm not joking.

The most wicked part is however the last, whose working-name is "All Within My Hands". A very strange piece with an instrumental intro of one minute and fifteen seconds. The tempo is ultra-fast, taking so many twists and turns that you get all dizzy. "All Within My Hands" is shouted and then sung in an Alice In Chains manner. And the ending? MAN OH MAN! Like a possessed madman Hetfield screams "Kill kill kill kill!!" ad absurdum - we're talking deranged shrieks coming from a psychopathic Tom Araya (think Slayer's "Kill Again" only even more insane). You'd think it was over after that. But no. It is like watching an exciting thriller with so many surprises that you finally don't believe an ending is forthcoming. Yes, after a heavy-as-lead finale it winds down at eight minutes and 55 seconds.

I'm not joking.

20 Journalists finally leave the control-room and look at each other. No one needs say anything; the looks say it all: What in god's name have we just experienced? That Metallica, once tired old farts, have made a complete 180, and now sound like a bunch of hormone-reeking bucks in heat, is the most incredible thing that's happened in music history. "St. Anger" is the real "Reload". "St. Anger" doesn't sound like anything the group has done before, it hardly even sounds like Metallica. "St. Anger" is a modern, super-brutal metal-album that is going to chock and knock the entire music world. Melodies? Nope, there's not much here that reminds one of traditional melodies or arrangements such as verse, bridge, chorus. The 10th of June could become known as the day that shook the world. If you haven't catched on yet:

I'm not joking.

Martin Carlsson

After reading this i was Excited as fuck but... then i read later that Avril Lavine is going to be [preformign at MTV ICON:METALLICA =/ wtf?

Then i found this ST.Anger Sample, of all the sample clips realised so far... Enjoy =P

http://www.allmetallica.com/St. Anger Mix.MP3
 
I think kirk hammet has nothing. This guy only plays pentatonic scales and his sound is so monotonous. Intead, if you listen to Michael Romeo, Petrucci or other guitarist who really use many many other scales. Nevertheless, Michaels sound is unique and the way metal guitarist should sound.
 
After listening to that clip ... I have some reservations about the new album ... it sounds so unMetallicA!!! ... either that or I've listened to too much prog-metal to like MetallicA ever again.