i'm possibly going to get my first car soonish

jeep wranglers are also dick lengtheners for people who like to spend a lot of money on very bad cars and a vw jetta is like the most middle of the road vanilla plain jane family car you could ever have

you guys are way off base
 
Yeah Jeeps are pretty much garbage if you want my real opinion (sorry NAD). It's true that Subarus are jokingly associated with "manly lesbians" in the USA, but that certainly doesn't stop anyone from buying them. Here in New England, it seems like every 1 in 5 cars is a Subaru. They just make sense in this part of the world. On top of that, the Impreza is a great car and also happens to be the cheapest brand new option when purchasing an AWD vehicle.
 
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well see i bought a subaru forester because i live in the forest and "forest" is in the name. see: subaru forester.

i would buy a wrangler if i lived in the wrangl. but i don't.

i hope this clears things up.
 
Actually I just remembered that one of the guys in Noltem bought a 2015 Impreza and had the CVT basically explode at around 10k miles. They replaced it quickly (for free) with many apologies. He hasn't had a lick of trouble since then. Were they still using regular automatic transmissions in the 2009 Forester?
 
Jeep Wranglers and Subaru Wagons are the premier Gay Vehicles in the USA.

Why else do you think I own one of each?
what about saabs though

i know they'll be rare over there but i thought to the extent that they exist they were the gayest of the gay
 
I had a 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero SportCombi (2.8L V6) and it was 110% NOT gay. It got like 12mpg but hey, I used to absolutely destroy a bunch of losers in Corvettes and Mustangs when they would try to race me at stop lights. Every time.
 
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Actually I just remembered that one of the guys in Noltem bought a 2015 Impreza and had the CVT basically explode at around 10k miles. They replaced it quickly (for free) with many apologies. He hasn't had a lick of trouble since then. Were they still using regular automatic transmissions in the 2009 Forester?
yeah it's a normal-ass automatic as far as i know. funny that you assume that it even is an automatic at all because we generally drive manual here even though it's been trending a lot towards automatics the past ten years or so. but this time you were right, it actually is an automatic

i mean clearly we buy very different cars here. pickup trucks barely exist, everyone drives wagons, everyone has a trailer.

and the kind of cars that would be considered a little gay or lesbian or womanly here you don't even freakin have

like because gas is free in america and your default family cars are 8wd hummer pickup monstertrucks with flames shooting out the ass you don't even have these as frame of reference:

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I had a 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero SportCombi (2.8L V6) and it was 110% NOT gay. It got like 12mpg but hey, I used to absolutely destroy a bunch of losers in Corvettes and Mustangs when they would try to race me at stop lights. Every time.
well but we're not talking about

1) is it a good car

2) is it a fast car

the only consideration here is whether it's gay

i mean in sweden saabs are just old pieces of shit you see all day every day because, well, it's sweden, but i was under the impression that in america it is the gaymobile par excellence
 
FWIW, probably 10-20% of people who own pickup trucks in the USA actually need a pickup truck. SO many people lease these giant fucking boats for 3 years and never put a single thing in the bed. It's criminal, what a waste of resources.
 
Saabs disappeared too long ago over here, man I never see them anymore. Years ago Saab rebadged the WRX in wagon form only and it was like triple queer score. Up until then they were just a Weird Audi in the US of A, and now my only lasting association is this:

 
Saab 900 is one of the most classic vehicles of all time tho
they're really cool but you don't see the nice ones on the road, you see rusted-out pos 9-3's and 9-5's all the time

saab 900s are mostly gone from the road now but for the longest time they were infamous as the favourite vehicle of thieves and drug addicts stealin car stereos etc because the locks were so bad you could open/start them with anything you could fit in the slot
 
my fav saab is the saab 95 (not 9-5)

it's a love it/hate it kind of thing but to me this is a true classic of swedish industrial design

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Re: Jeep: shittiness: it's all true. You either accept it and buy one, or avoid them and have a boring life. I hated them for years because I was a TOYOTA RELIABILITY guy but then I piloted a shitty YJ with bald street tires in Death Valley one insane day, and said "oh." It was amazing, the thing was unstoppable. Bought my own a few years later.

Personally I find the demographics of Jeep Wranglers hilarious. There are three people that buy a Wrangler:

1) homosexual men
2) dude/bro/dude penis guys
3) soccer moms

That is it. If you have a Wrangler, and think you are different, you are wrong. Look in the mirror and realize your True Self.
 
the car inspection places where you go to inspect your car for road safety yearly -- and this is where my english vocabulary fails me because i don't know what you would call it in english rn -- BUT ANYWAY -- they publish statistics of reliability by brand and jeep is like constantly dead last

so i mean... if you like the car then that's cool but i'm not touching that with a ten foot pole. expensive AND poor quality? sign me the fuck up

i like older jeeps though. my sister's ex husband had like a '86 CJ7 i think it was. it was awesome but it never ever passed inspection and he fucked around with it for like 100 hours for every 1 hour he got to drive the thing.