im sad guys

[Vilden]

In the latest season of Dr Who, the Doctor is sporting an electric guitar. Coincidence? I think not!

 

[Krow]

http://m.192.com/atoz/people/harper/ivor/cr3/2123784438/

That says there's a man living in the UK named Ivor T Harper. 1978 was 38 years ago. It says he's somewhere between 55-59 years old. He would have been around 20 then.

I'm sure that website is in on it too though.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Good find, that's the kind of independent verification I'm looking for.

EDIT: They even have a Jon Mizrahi, so that's good. At the very least I would tend to believe that those early members were actually associated with the band.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Wainds should go knock on his door and demand evidence of pre-90's Pagan Altar. Maybe rough him up a bit. Let him know that there are serious internet people seriously having some serious concerns about the existence of the band as written in metal folklore.

 

[Omni]

There is no 1980s bootleg referred to on the Metal-Archives. They have a policy against including bootlegs, with the exception of the obvious Mayhem example.

You are objectively incorrect in this claim.

 

[Omni]

Pagan Altar recorded a master for a single in 1980 at Abbey Road studios and has a photo of the master on their website. That's proof enough that they existed at that time if you ask me.

Pagan Altar was also referred to by name in the Sounds music newspaper circa 1980.

The biography on their website also has dozens of live photos where you can clearly identify a younger Terry Jones and Alan Jones and you can see a Pagan Altar logo in many of them. I'm still waiting for explanations of how there are so many concert photos of them that are clearly decades old if they didn't play music back then.

 

[no country for old wainds]

Then I went to their website and found multiple things that seemed very hard to believe, and now I think of them as something of a Jacula.

im triumphatus sad guys

 

[HamburgerBoy]

That M-A thing is hardly a reference. Anyone with editing power could have edited that, and without a source, we're to assume it came from the band themselves.

Where is the photo of the master?

Most photos of the band "on stage" have no audience in them. Anyone can turn some lights on, put a few props up, and pretend to be performing in a photo.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Oh found it, a low-res photo of a record that says 'Abbey Road' and might say 'Pagan Altar' scribbled in cursive.

 

[no country for old wainds]

maybe it's been pagan altered

 

[CiG]

You still haven't addressed the photo I provided HBB, which in my opinion is the best proof so far.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I did address it. It would still be nice to know more information about it other than that it was posted on some forum a few years ago. I do think it's incredible that somehow they managed to only get the audience in focus, despite comprising only maybe the bottom fifth. Was their photographer legitimately retarded or something?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

To give specifics, the guy that posted the photo is also apparently the owner of "Buried by Time and Dust Records", who have released several Pagan Altar things. That represents a conflict of interest.

 

[suckerleaf]

 

[-CC-]

The plot thickens.

 

[Satanstoenail]

I did address it. It would still be nice to know more information about it other than that it was posted on some forum a few years ago. I do think it's incredible that somehow they managed to only get the audience in focus, despite comprising only maybe the bottom fifth. Was their photographer legitimately retarded or something?

Autofocus will pick whatever is in the foreground and focus on that. However autofocus didn't really become a thing until the mid to late eighties. It's also possible that the photographer was retarded.

 

[Baroque]

Autofocus will pick whatever is in the foreground and focus on that. However autofocus didn't really become a thing until the mid to late eighties. It's also possible that the photographer was retarded.

Depends on what type of autofocus. A decent photographer will use center auto focus and shift to recompose if necessary

 

[Master_Yoda77]

I'm so glad I got HBB on ignore now.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Depends on what type of autofocus. A decent photographer will use center auto focus and shift to recompose if necessary

Well my point was if it was autofocussed, then it probably wasn't taken in 82.

I'm so glad I got HBB on ignore now.

So glad that you had to come back in this thread and tell us all. Pretty glad. *view post*

 

[CiG]

I did address it. It would still be nice to know more information about it other than that it was posted on some forum a few years ago. I do think it's incredible that somehow they managed to only get the audience in focus, despite comprising only maybe the bottom fifth. Was their photographer legitimately retarded or something?

It's a photo of a show that is clearly pre-90's, with a crowd, and the Pagan Altar symbol above the stage and their logo which is clearly an old version of their modern logo on the end of the coffin.

I'd say that's pretty cut-and-dry man.

To give specifics, the guy that posted the photo is also apparently the owner of "Buried by Time and Dust Records", who have released several Pagan Altar things. That represents a conflict of interest.

Actually that could just suggest that he's had intimate contact with the band and so he might be privy to personal. unpublished photos.