JCM 2203RI

jangoux

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Hey guys,

A buddy is selling a Marshall JCM800 2203 100w master volume amp for a good price. I am thinking of selling a bunch of stuff to get it but I never played a marshall on my whole life. What one could expect from such an amp ?
 
ahahah this I expected. But how about versatility (or lack of it) ? How far can it go gain wise?
 
Forget versatility. Not hi gain by today's standards. No metal tone without a boost.
 
Forget versatility. Not hi gain by today's standards. No metal tone without a boost.

Think so? My JCM800 50 Watter is one of the most vesatile amps I've ever owned. I'd never sell that one! Does everything and in between from Bell-like Clean tones, AC/DC Crunch to Brutal Death Metal (with HotMod or Pedal Boost). They have a great and very usable low mid range!
Those old 800 are the most in-your-face amps I ever played as well. That will bring bad playing technique into the foreground though, so for players with a not so good technique it's better to let them play over a 5150, XXX or the like....
 
Think so? My JCM800 50 Watter is one of the most vesatile amps I've ever owned. I'd never sell that one! Does everything and in between from Bell-like Clean tones, AC/DC Crunch to Brutal Death Metal (with HotMod or Pedal Boost). They have a great and very usable low mid range!
Those old 800 are the most in-your-face amps I ever played as well. That will bring bad playing technique into the foreground though, so for players with a not so good technique it's better to let them play over a 5150, XXX or the like....

He's talking about a 2203.I used to have a 2203 that was modded later . I loved that amp and I miss it a lot, but it did only one thing. And it wasn't clean tones.
 
I don't think you know what brutal death metal is bro :)

The heaviest a JCM800 will get without an external distortion pedal

 
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I know pretty well what Brutal Death Metal is (I've been listening to it since the very early 90s :yow:), that's why I wrote you'd need a Soldano Hot Mod or a Pedal for that. But those old Marshalls react very well to all sort of Pedals...Gorefest - False is a prime example of a very cool (slightly undergained though) modded/boosted Marshall 800 tone....
 
I know pretty well what Brutal Death Metal is (I've been listening to it since the very early 90s :yow:), that's why I wrote you'd need a Soldano Hot Mod or a Pedal for that. But those old Marshalls react very well to all sort of Pedals...Gorefest - False is a prime example of a very cool (slightly undergained though) modded/boosted Marshall 800 tone....

I'm just saying we SHOULD be talking about the AMP not the amp with a pedal, I don't go to the store and say, hmm the amp doesn't have enough gain maybe I should use a metalzone on the clean channel, mmm that will sound much better :)

Also, 800's are easily the loosest amps I've played in my life (regarding the low end) and you will have a hard time finding a band that plays that style music using any JCM.
 
I don't think the JCM800 is loose in any way. A Mesa is loose in my book, Marshall are pretty focused, but whatever, different tastes obviously...
But you are right, without Pedal (even I think a standard TS is enough to boost it into High Gain Territory) or mod it won't do Death Metal, or anything Metal at all. But Marshalls just love to be abused and keep their character very well with a Pedal in front.
 
I don't think the JCM800 is loose in any way. A Mesa is loose in my book, Marshall are pretty focused, but whatever, different tastes obviously...
But you are right, without Pedal (even I think a standard TS is enough to boost it into High Gain Territory) or mod it won't do Death Metal, or anything Metal at all. But Marshalls just love to be abused and keep their character very well with a Pedal in front.

For playing heavy/thash/speed etc, a 800 is hard to beat.
 
The JCM800 is a beastly amp for rock. Why not try it out first? Worst case, if it's a good price you should always be able to sell it if you don't like it and get your money back.
 
Anyone ever heard of that one trash band called "Slayer"?


Their tones have a lot of gain, even before they switched to the custom KK 2203 model. They didn't play modded JCM's either, they just boosted them with an MXR EQ pedal. With a boost, these amps can get brutal. I remember Suicide Silence also endorsing how brutal JCM800's are.
 
Anyone ever heard of that one trash band called "Slayer"?


Their tones have a lot of gain, even before they switched to the custom KK 2203 model. They didn't play modded JCM's either, they just boosted them with an MXR EQ pedal. With a boost, these amps can get brutal. I remember Suicide Silence also endorsing how brutal JCM800's are.

Not as much gain as you would think, their tone is fucking terrible anyways, so loose and undefined, sounds like the the tubes of their amps are donkey nuts.
 
That's what Tom Warrior told me it was when I asked him, a stock JCM800 boosted with a tube screamer into a Marshall cab with v30s.

If you know different, then please enlighten me.

Sounds very HM-2 to me, the tone is to fizzy and dark to be a 800+TS, maybe they were using neck pickups for rhythm.