Karma Mics K-Micro review (pics and clips)

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Anssi Tenhunen
So, I finally got the Karma Mics K-Micro K-SB7 Silver Bullet mics after 2 months of waiting. They are REALLY cheap omni-pattern SDC mics at $89 list price, $105 including tax and shipping.

We decided to test them out "in action" at the studio on both loud and quieter source, grand piano and drums. I forgot to take pictures of the piano micing, but I took some photos from the drum micing. I will add all the multimedia stuff (pics, samples and sound clips) to the next post when I get back to the dorms, but here is the text part of the review.

The purpose of the test was to test how the microphones sound "out of the box" without any extra processing compared to other workhorses on the field, so we kept the signal path simple; microphone - SSL Duality (we used only the preamp) - Digidesign 192 - Pro Tools. We aimed the recording level to the top of the green area in PT (I think it's -18dBFS on PT8) with some occasional hits on yellow, but without clipping at any point.

We started the test with drums. We had a basic four piece kit (kick, snare, 2 toms, hihat, crash and ride) and we "double" miced up the set; with the "normal" setup (sm57 on snare, b56 on toms, sm81 on ride and hi hat, km184 as overheads and _I think_ Studio Project C4's as room mics) and then the whole 7 piece Karma kit on snare, rack tom, floor tom, hi hat, ride and stereo overheads. We used the same kick mics for both setups (Crown PZM and Shure B52)

Some observations:

- They were SUPER easy to setup on the kit, because they are so lightweight and tiny. One is about half the size of your pinky. No weight drooping on the stands and they fit to pretty much everywhere. They literally were one of the easiest mics with a stand I have ever setup.
- When we listened to the mics we noticed was that the polar pattern is omni. If you are unfamiliar what this means, it means that it picks up A LOT of bleed. The rack tom mic pretty much picked everything as loud as everything else, thus they are really bad mics for gating or triggering. If you want to gate these, I would suggest using them with triggers or other mics. The overall sound was like you had room mics everywhere on the kit, which actually sounded pretty cool.
- One thing we noticed after we pressed record was that even though the Karma Mics website says it has 135dB max SPL, I think it's bullshit, because we hit the distortion on all the mics. When we watched the waveform, it was pretty square wavy on drum snare hits, even though recorded signal was around -18dBFS level, so we came to the conclusion it is distorting either on the diaphragm or the internal electronics. The good thing is that the distortion actually sounded really nice. Kinda like you had a really colored compressor on the mic. Similar effect can be heard on Sennheiser e901 and Shure Beta 91 (and EMG pickups), where part of the character from them comes from the internal clipping of the transducer.

On grand piano we tried a few spaced pair setups of Karma Silver Bullets and Neumann KM184's when we realized they omni pattern; Spaced pair by the hammers and "room mic setup" by the lid. They didn't distort and they sounded a bit darker and more open than the KM184's. There was three of us and preferred the Karma's over the Neumann's on the piano.

Summa summarum:

- The silver bullets have their applications, but you have to realized that they are just another tool in the in your disposal, another flavor to try if you want the tracks to sound a bit different. They are NOT desert island mics that works everywhere, the default "go to" mics, nor the thing if you want to record clean and natural sounding loud drums. I would definitely use it as an effect and for some really dirty sounding (hardcore) punk, and if you are looking for really dirty but at the same time pretty open sound, this could be your thing.
- Are they worth the price? Definitely. $105/7 pieces = $15 a piece, including shipping and tax. The coolest thing was that the guy who sent the package was called BRUCE LEE
 
And the good stuff:

mp3 mixdown previews of the drums and piano, only levels set and panning, no post processing:

Drums
Karmas: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma_mixdown.mp3
Other mics: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma_mixdown_reference.mp3

Piano
Karmas: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma_piano_mixdown.mp3
Other mics: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma_piano_reference.mp3

note that the left-right panning is drummers perspective and the files that end with "name K_xx.wav" is the Karma mics, for example "SN K_01.wav", "HAT K_01.wav", "OH K_01 L.wav" etc, the files without them extra K's are the other mics listed in the op. The Karma mics are NOT in phase with the regular mics, so if you want to blend them, you have to move them around.

Multitrack samples, free for all, only snare + 2 toms, no kick or cymbals:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma Multitrack Samples.zip (114mb)

Multitrack playing stuff, might have to remove these at some point:
drums http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma Multitrack Playing.zip (190mb)
piano http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma Multitrack Piano.zip (177mb)


Pix:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma01.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma02.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma03.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma04.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma05.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/Karma/Karma06.jpg
 
Cool! I work at Karma Audio - glad to see the positive review!

If you can affect their product line in anyway, can you forward a message to add a description of the polar pattern on the website and also if they could do a version of the silver bullets that is more focused pattern like cardioid instead of omni? It shouldn't require much more stuff than moving the membrane just a bit down and making a few holes to the chassis. Kinda like this:

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I bought these a while back (review here).

I found the distortion made them pretty much unusable (they distorted on vocals for gods sake). I even made my own DIY 20db pad, didn't work. Sent one back complaining, they sent a screenshot of it supposedly having zero distortion on their side. They must have been tapping the fucking drum because obviously I'm not the only one with this problem.

They have great potential (honestly an AWESOME raw tom sound) but the distortion wrecks it. They sounded awful as room or overhead mics in my room, scooped, hyped harsh topend and just really trashy in a bad way. These would be great for a band that wants to record a demo as cheap as possible. But expecting anything but 'demo' sound from them is going to leave you disappointed. They distorted on any drum (even as room mics they were distorting for me - metres away from the drums), even on vocals. And because of the distortion you can forget about triggering.

I listened to Anssi's drum clip and it sounded pretty much the same as what I got, maybe a little better (I'm sure you room is a lot better!). Haven't listened the piano clip cos its 200mb. Glad you like them, but I couldn't find a use for mine after a month or so and they've been sitting in their box unused since. :/
 
well, at least the drummer who played was pretty heavy handed, we didn't try it out on jazz. I guess if you would play with that kind of touch, they might not distort.

edit: I added a short mp3 clips of the piano to the second post

They distorted even as room mics with my playing, so I think even playing at a decent level with brushes would distort them as closemics.

Listened the piano clips and they sound decent - but obviously the KM184's are a bajillion miles ahead. The KMicro's sound really blurred on the transients, but the actual sound and EQ is quite pleasant.
 
They distorted even as room mics with my playing, so I think even playing at a decent level with brushes would distort them as closemics.

Listened the piano clips and they sound decent - but obviously the KM184's are a bajillion miles ahead. The KMicro's sound really blurred on the transients, but the actual sound and EQ is quite pleasant.

Well, you are also comparing a mic that costs $15 and one that costs $850. Put it in to perspective. It's just another tool in the box, and if you want to have some lofi stuff, that mic is a good choise. And distorting room mics isn't a bad thing in my opinion, because atleast I usually squeeze and distort the life out of my room mics anyway.

Thats a shame to be honest as at that price I'd buy them in a heartbeat. But if they distort that easily they're not really worth looking at.

They distort only on loud sources. And as you might know, there are other sources than loud. Except maybe in metal.
 
Well, you are also comparing a mic that costs $15 and one that costs $850. Put it in to perspective. It's just another tool in the box, and if you want to have some lofi stuff, that mic is a good choise. And distorting room mics isn't a bad thing in my opinion, because atleast I usually squeeze and distort the life out of my room mics anyway.



They distort only on loud sources. And as you might know, there are other sources than loud. Except maybe in metal.

I think the mics were like $7 each when I bought them ;p And yeah, obviously they're never going to be of equal quality. Personally I couldn't find any use of them - in fact, if anyone likes these clips and wants to buy my set, I'll sell it for $50 + shipping. Not to derail your thread.
 
They're gonna be usable for something. And shit... they're cheap. Even if I only use them to get one decent sound for our album, I wont mind spending the money.
 
Got the 7 pack, they are all right. Pull em away from the toms a bit and they don't distort too bad. Lots of bleed but sounds good