keep metalcore off wacken. sign the petition

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From the petition
"67. Stuart Moore a7x must die of AIDS!!!!!"

I bet the organisers were swayed by that erudite chap.

And BTW anyone that calls Avenged Sevenfold "a7x" is as gay as a big bag of monkeys shagging each other's arses. That's gayer than metalcore.
 
I actually think it's a decent idea - Wacken should be about metal. Shit like Avenged Sevenfold shouldn't really be associated with a metal gig. It's a cop out.
I just find it very amusing that they named Slayer as one of the "true metal" bands, since that band have had the gain knob turned to about three in recent years. "Christ Illusion" was a pile of pish. If THAT'S the definition of true metal, gimme anything else please.
 
Avenged Sevenfold are much more metal now than they were, it just doesn't help most people's views of them that a bunch of n00bs know them due to Guitar Hero.
 
OK.

Firstly, welcome back Stormwatch, I missed you, you scottish bender.

Secondly, let me first say that I am a close minded cretin that hates anything -core or post-. That being said, raging about what is "true" metal on such a huge festival is a fucking waste of time. They have to appeal to the widest possible audience to make the most money. Wacken is a commercial, money making venture. For purity, go to the smaller fests which are put on by fans for fans. Wacken is put on for drunken metal heads (no bad thing) by fat German business men. The fact they have long hair does not make them any less corporate whores. Don't get me wrong, that isn't meant as a huge insult - it is after all just one band in a fucking huge line up.

Evrybody needs time to have a piss and drink more beer. Trust me, these turds will get the reception that they deserve from the audience. THAT will say more to the organisers than some fucking e-petition, especially since most of the retards (no offence to any signers in here) won't be attending anyway.

The metal police don't exist people, and petitions don't convince businessmen of shit: profits do.
 
Avenged Sevenfold are much more metal now than they were, it just doesn't help most people's views of them that a bunch of n00bs know them due to Guitar Hero.
I'm gonna be honest. I have a slight soft spot for the stuff on their past two albums. It's basically heavy/power but with a sub-par singer. Sure they look like fags and they're popular with the kids, but that doesn't particularily matter to me. They have some catchy tunes and guitar work on their newer material.

I wonder if Avenged Sevenfold will even take the stage. I heard that Bullet for my Valentine (wisely) backed out of their performance after the backlash their announcement recieved. I don't want to keep metalcore out of Wacken because I like quite a few metalcore groups. I also agree with Carcassian, if you don't like the band, don't watch them. The promoters won't ever book a band again if the band doesn't draw a crowd at all. This is the biggest metalfest in the world, I don't understand why a handful of big-name groups are causing such a stir when there are even more bands that are many, many times greater.
 
OK.

Firstly, welcome back Stormwatch, I missed you, you scottish bender.

Secondly, let me first say that I am a close minded cretin that hates anything -core or post-. That being said, raging about what is "true" metal on such a huge festival is a fucking waste of time. They have to appeal to the widest possible audience to make the most money. Wacken is a commercial, money making venture. For purity, go to the smaller fests which are put on by fans for fans. Wacken is put on for drunken metal heads (no bad thing) by fat German business men. The fact they have long hair does not make them any less corporate whores. Don't get me wrong, that isn't meant as a huge insult - it is after all just one band in a fucking huge line up.

Evrybody needs time to have a piss and drink more beer. Trust me, these turds will get the reception that they deserve from the audience. THAT will say more to the organisers than some fucking e-petition, especially since most of the retards (no offence to any signers in here) won't be attending anyway.

The metal police don't exist people, and petitions don't convince businessmen of shit: profits do.

I basically said this earlier but it was much less of a polemic. Good stuff. :kickass:
 
OK.

Firstly, welcome back Stormwatch, I missed you, you scottish bender.

Secondly, let me first say that I am a close minded cretin that hates anything -core or post-. That being said, raging about what is "true" metal on such a huge festival is a fucking waste of time. They have to appeal to the widest possible audience to make the most money. Wacken is a commercial, money making venture. For purity, go to the smaller fests which are put on by fans for fans. Wacken is put on for drunken metal heads (no bad thing) by fat German business men. The fact they have long hair does not make them any less corporate whores. Don't get me wrong, that isn't meant as a huge insult - it is after all just one band in a fucking huge line up.

Evrybody needs time to have a piss and drink more beer. Trust me, these turds will get the reception that they deserve from the audience. THAT will say more to the organisers than some fucking e-petition, especially since most of the retards (no offence to any signers in here) won't be attending anyway.

The metal police don't exist people, and petitions don't convince businessmen of shit: profits do.

excellent
 
Old news. This petition isn't going to do a damn thing. I am going to Wacken and hate these bands just as much as the next guy but I am going to have a hell of a time throwing shit at these faggot bands. Either that or I'll just sit at my tent and drink beer while they play.
 
I don't give a shit that many of you think you're cool and open minded for liking some metalcore. But surely, you can see the advantages in keeping the two scenes separated? After all, there are still many metal puritans out there who don't want the scenes they've cultivated and lived for for many years spoiled by some fad, and who are you to deny them that? In other words, make your own goddammed festival!

/signed on the premiss that Wacken is merely the metaphor for all the metal festivals that has for many years been true to the spirit of metal.
I don't think it's a bad idea for Avenged Sevenfold fans to listen to some Carcass and At the Gates. Wouldn't that be more conducive to the 'spirit of metal'?

...unless the spirit of metal is self-defeat.
 
Except that Carcass and AtG will be playing the songs that appeal most to them, namely Heartwork and Slaughter of the Soul. If they knew they were catering to a more extreme/traditional-minded audience, they would feel better about playing their less-accessible songs.
 
Except that Carcass and AtG will be playing the songs that appeal most to them, namely Heartwork and Slaughter of the Soul. If they knew they were catering to a more extreme/traditional-minded audience, they would feel better about playing their less-accessible songs.
So the 'spirit of metal' is limited accessibility? Sounds self-defeating to me.

Meh...punk is the same way. Any other musical genre outside of punk and metal, 'selling out' is a good thing.
 
The spirit of Metal is definitely not having metalcore bands play at a metal festival. You example would make much more sense if it was metal bands playing at a metalcore festival exposing people to the music.

Also, there's no such thing as 'the spirit of metal.'
 
Meh...punk is the same way. Any other musical genre outside of punk and metal, 'selling out' is a good thing.

Same thing happened with rock in general. With commercial success, artists began facing the question of whether they should write for themselves or for the listeners. The 50's and early 60's was all about commercializing rock n' roll, and the late 60's was about breaking away from that, but in the 70's, people who were successful writing for themselves came to the point where they faced that question.
 
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