Keyboarists/ Pianoists

[Braighs]

Borknagar used to be a very sincere, sinister and organic sounding black metal band. Garm (of ulver, arcturus) was the vocalist, and especially on the self titled debut, maybe gave his best performance to date in extremity with the screams, and almost "viking" sounding clean vocals. The album is pretty harsh, but among the best releases for mid era black metal that was ever created. A lot of melody without being cliche or "cheesey". And as for the 2nd album, they switched the lyrics to english, and it has a bit better production and is a little more artsy and whimsical, but is also fantastic. It is my opinion that after these 2 albums, the band went SERIOUSLY downhill. Empericism and Epic especially being very cheesey pieces of trite circus metal trash. However that being said, if you enjoy the new stuff you very well might hate OR truly love the older material. Depending on your taste in metal i guess.

Based on your previous stated opinion of Vintersorg, I am going to guess that I will much like the new Borknagar.

...anyway...I was just asking about the use of keys. Not the band as a whole.

PS. Don't you consider Arcturus "circus metal"?

 

[FullMetalCornflake]

and ayreon and dream theater has some REALLY cheesy keyboard partitions and solos.

I can't get into bands that have cheesy keyboard solos. I love the atmosphere that a good keyboardest brings. Something that adds to the mood without overpowering...

 

[NicholasDWolfwood]

Per...what it so great about him?

Anybody could play like him after 5 piano lessons with their neighbors grandma. Then again, metalheads like the piano to be almost nonexistant. As a piano player myself, I was excited to hear he was joining. But just watch Lamentations - A fair judgment. No feeling, no technical ability whatsoever. He doesn't distract from Opeth, but he doesn't add anything more than a session musician. Now listen to the ending of the Leper Affinity. That is superb.

This is the first negative thing I have said about Opeth, sorry.
And Per, I think you are a cool person. But you should try to be a more creative force in the band. That is all. goodnight.

And...Per has been in the band for one album? And you're judging him off a DVD that was filmed when he had only been a session/live player for the band, not adding his own textures to the music like he has done live all over the GR tours. Every song that Opeth plays is laden with organ/symphonic/synth parts now.

 

[Braighs]

And...Per has been in the band for one album? And you're judging him off a DVD that was filmed when he had only been a session/live player for the band, not adding his own textures to the music like he has done live all over the GR tours. Every song that Opeth plays is laden with organ/symphonic/synth parts now.

..yeah. I guess its not my arena to judge that type of playing. I think it adds to their sound in a good way. But You have to admit that Wison is a better pianist. I suppose if I judge him not as a pianist but as ummm... something else, he is good.

 

[NFU]

Based on your previous stated opinion of Vintersorg, I am going to guess that I will much like the new Borknagar.

...anyway...I was just asking about the use of keys. Not the band as a whole.

PS. Don't you consider Arcturus "circus metal"?

arcturus is circus metal. but theyre the one band who are actually capable of pulling it off.

 

[BreathingShadow]

..yeah. I guess its not my arena to judge that type of playing. I think it adds to their sound in a good way. But You have to admit that Wison is a better pianist. I suppose if I judge him not as a pianist but as ummm... something else, he is good.

Per is way better

 

[MegaMoose]

I wanna exhibit my skill through Metal because i believe this style allows for the greatest demonstration of skill.

Sorry, but that's honestly just a stupid thing to think. You exhibit your skill through metal because you like metal. That's all. I don't mean to sound arrogant, but if you think metal allows for the greatest demonstration of skill, then you don't have a very deep grasp of music.

 

[Black Rain]

Well it's subjective. In a band like metallica or Lamb of god of course not. If I ever heard a single key in those bands it would probably sound like balls. Now personally I don't think Opeth needed keys but now that they're there it's not a bad thing nor good. It's more of inbetween.

 

[illidurit]

Sorry, but that's honestly just a stupid thing to think. You exhibit your skill through metal because you like metal. That's all. I don't mean to sound arrogant, but if you think metal allows for the greatest demonstration of skill, then you don't have a very deep grasp of music.

no way man, children of bodom >>>>>>>>>> chopin lolol rite guys??!

 

[Xanthochroid]

Sorry, but that's honestly just a stupid thing to think. You exhibit your skill through metal because you like metal. That's all. I don't mean to sound arrogant, but if you think metal allows for the greatest demonstration of skill, then you don't have a very deep grasp of music.

What I meant was that as far as contemporary music goes, metal requires the most skill; well certain types of metal. I guess jazz ranks up there too, but I'm not gonna get anywhere playing that, and I just plain don't like it, besides, Opeth's use of scale changes and abstract chords shows jazz a thing or two!

 

[Hlfreak]

What I meant was that as far as contemporary music goes, metal requires the most skill; well certain types of metal. I guess jazz ranks up there too, but I'm not gonna get anywhere playing that, and I just plain don't like it, besides, Opeth's use of scale changes and abstract chords shows jazz a thing or two!

Sorry, but your an idiot.

 

[JoeVice]

What I meant was that as far as contemporary music goes, metal requires the most skill; well certain types of metal. I guess jazz ranks up there too, but I'm not gonna get anywhere playing that, and I just plain don't like it, besides, Opeth's use of scale changes and abstract chords shows jazz a thing or two!

it all depends on what you mean by 'skill'. you are breaking it down by genre/style. you are comparing metal to every genre outside of it. but, each genre has its own widely agreed upon skills. band what it really comes down to is the individual's concept of the 'ideal skill.'

 

[westknife]

What I meant was that as far as contemporary music goes, metal requires the most skill; well certain types of metal. I guess jazz ranks up there too, but I'm not gonna get anywhere playing that, and I just plain don't like it, besides, Opeth's use of scale changes and abstract chords shows jazz a thing or two!

wow... just wow. that is honestly one of the most ridiculous and naive things i've ever seen posted on this forum... and that's saying a lot, judging by this place's usual content

 

[affinityband]

I agree. What the hell, has he ever even listened to jazz. Those guitarists/musicians fucking slay the hell out of opeth in technical ability and imagination to improvise.

 

[Braighs]

Those guitarists/musicians fucking slay

*chuckles* jazz musicians "slay"?

lets leave the slaying to the tr00 kvlt eh

wait...someone photshop louis armstrong on a cannible corpse cover plz

 

[Man In Black]

lol @ pianoists

 

[affinityband]

lol @ you thinking they are called 'Pianoists'

'Pianist' sweetheart.

 

[Man In Black]

lol @ you thinking they are called 'Pianoists'

'Pianist' sweetheart.

erm, I know.
I was making fun of the title, idiot.

 

[affinityband]

Damn, you got me there i shall now aim my patronising comment towards the thread starter.

 

[ScandinavianMetal]

Sorry, but your an idiot.

Stop fucking insulting him. He has a right to speak what he believes.
And, as far as I read by him, he is far from an idiot that actually know's a little greater acpect of metal, and you should respect that.

Thanks for all your comments on this topic, it was a supising amount.
I am the keyboardist of my band, and I stronlgly belive in them.
And, i also look up at Janne Warmen!