Lack of excitement in metal...

You're one of those guys that have only 50 posts but have been wrong like 100 times already.
 
mattsson said:
I'd say there's plenty of good older metal albums to discover for a lifetime out there. If you're someone who really takes the time to listen to the albums you have, and not just someone who gets tons albums to have them. It's annoying when people who have only been into metal for five years or so claim to know everything about every album there is, it's impossible to have taken in all that stuff which some claim to have done(some of the people here too), in just a couple of years.
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This is pretty much me. Almost every album I own, I've at least listened to it a pretty good amount of time somewhere through my life. (I'm talking about the person who takes the time to listen to the music)
 
Omni said:
That's funny because you just said this:
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Ok, we'll break it down more since we're now playing the minute detail game. They might exist. Not saying they don't. But as of right now I don't know of any so I can't say they do. That post was something my girlfriend from high school would have pulled.
 
divine_torture said:
Ok, we'll break it down more since we're now playing the minute detail game. They might exist. Not saying they don't. But as of right now I don't know of any so I can't say they do. That post was something my girlfriend from high school would have pulled.
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Pointing out obviously significant inconsistencies in what someone is saying isn't immature. It's not really my problem if you can't keep your own statements straight and consistent with one another, since you already said that there were no good new bands multiple times as a major part of your argument, including it making up the bulk of your original post in this thread.

If you suddenly changed your mind, which apparently happened coincidentally once people started making fun of you, that's not my problem either.

Stop whining on the internet because you can't find any new bands to download. Nobody else agrees with you.
 
I haven't changed my mind. I still don't know of any good new bands. And if I could download I wouldn't have created this thread. I have to buy albums, so when I buy an album from a new band I am not pleased to discover they suck. And I'm still saying there are no good new bands. If I find one I'm wrong. Just one.
 
What exactly is stopping you from sampling various bands' music through resources like Myspace and such if there's no possible way for you to download the music? Sure, it isn't the same as hearing the full album at a reasonable audio quality, but it should be enough to invalidate your hilarious claim that not a single "good" band exists in the present day.
 
That's a valid point. All it is is that my computer is old and i have old software. I can't load anything on myspace, nothing that needs flash player. As of next month this will change. And I don't spend much time on the computer as it is anyway.
 
divine_torture said:
That's a valid point. All it is is that my computer is old and i have old software. I can't load anything on myspace, nothing that needs flash player. As of next month this will change. And I don't spend much time on the computer as it is anyway.
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So basically the lack of enthusiasm you have towards metal is your own fault.
 
It takes way too much time to sift through the huge number of bands and releases for most people to break down what is going on in metal as it happens. Rarely do new bands build up a reputation in less than two or three albums or years unless they are tied to other bands.
 
I don't really think that all that many of the classics would have that much staying power if they were released today. This is not to say that they aren't important. I think it's just as bad though to ignore the classics than to ignore the current scene. You could swap HLTO for Forgotten Legends and TH for Inquisitors of Satan and not miss out on much. Most classic albums do end up being done just as well, if not better by other bands. But people are herded into the classics from the get go, and in most cases, what people hear first holds a soft spot for them.
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DarkBliss said:
I agree fully with MasterOLightning. Most classics may be on par
with contemporary releases, people just don't give them time to sink in, because they're led to believe that most bands from a certain year onward are not worth sticking with, and are devoid of depth, so they cling to their old favorites. This is the "glorifiers of yesteryear" bias at its purest, according to which even the cheesiest and most incompetent 80s heavy metal band will be automatically more endearing and worthwhile in the long run than nowadays' acts, no matter how aesthetically similar the former may be to one's favorite pioneers.
I started to sense this upon suddenly falling out of love with most of the formative classics, they simply don't hold my attention as well as they used to.
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i find that innovation and 'staying power' tend to run hand in hand because innovation is a by-product of passion, creativity, desire etc. clone bands are often weaker than the bands they clone NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE CLONE BANDS but because they have a different attitude to the whole thing, there's less ambition and less thought behind what they do. the norwegian BM classics for example are not classic/great merely because they were formative - rather, the whole reason they were formative is that they were put out by artists who took themselves seriously and possessed an ambitious vision and aspired towards greatness. these qualities always seem to to exist within the formative bands/writers/whatever of a movement, because movements are only forced into fruition by such qualities - it is much rarer to find these qualities in isolated instances although obviously they can sometimes be found.

so yeah my basic point is that innovation is intimately bound up with 'staying power' because innovation itself naturally tends to accompany the other elements which constitute that power (passion, dedication, creativity etcetc). therefore derivative bands are weaker in all areas than their influences the majority of the time - that's just how it tends to work.

i have more to say on this but i don't have internet access except at the library atm so i might be slow responding. this post is a bit rushed for the same reason.
 
nah, music was still new and utilized different there was no crunchy riffs back . Just like with modern day movies, most ideas have been used, you can practically predict the endings on lots of new movies because its been done before . Music is more limited than you think.
 
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