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Random but I was watching the Canelo Vs Crawford event the other day and saw they had Michael Buffer doing the ring announcing. Damn, had no idea he was still going at 80 years old. Honestly, he sounded pretty good for his age.
 
Yeah, I didn't know that either. Definitely one of the most iconic voices in sports. Speaking of Buffer, some of his flubs are hilarious. One of my favorites is: "the best there is! The best there ever was! The best there ever will be! The HITMAN... BRRRRREEETTTT." Dude forgot he had a last name. And then some time later, he remembered Bret had a last name but called him Bret Clark lol

Also, have you ever heard Michael Buffer talk when he isn't announcing? It doesn't even sound like the same guy.
 
It started to feel like Buffer was just ribbing Bret after getting his name wrong for the 3rd or 4th time :rofl: from what I read he really enjoyed doing the WCW stuff though. I imagine the paycheck helped make that a positive association. Yeah he definitely has an 'announcing voice' which probably helps now that he's older, as he can still bust that out quite convincingly.I read that apparently UFC wanted him to do some of the early events in the mid-90s, but his WCW contract meant he couldn't do it, so his brother got the gig instead. Obviously worked out pretty well for Bruce.
 
I'm watching an episode of Nitro from 1998, for some reason captions are on, and I happen to look over at my second monitor and see this:

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That's some good captioning work, guys.
 
Thought you might get a kick out of this. I got Suno to do a metal cover of the classic Ministry of Darkness theme, then added it into the Undertaker's WM XV entrance (probably my favourite UT entrance, even though the match itself is shit). Unfortunately the crowd noise is pretty much lost, but I still think it's kinda cool :cool:



You might enjoy these ones as well:

A heavy metal cover of "A Man Called Sting":



A piano cover of Sting's crow theme:

 
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Wow, all of these are really cool. Taker's Ministry of Darkness theme is one of my all time favorites. It was so good.

The 'A Man Called Sting' cover made me think you should have Suno cover American Males, one of the most unintentionally great entrance themes of all time. This one makes me want to watch early/mid 90's WCW. I'm so fucking nostalgic for that era of WCW.

The piano cover is excellent. It would've worked well for a promo video back then. That was always one of my favorite themes too. I was pretty annoyed when Sting went to WWE and they didn't use it. To hear that theme with a special entrance at Mania would've been something special.
 
Yeah Taker's themes from late-1998 and through the Ministry era were all pretty cool. It was nice that they did little creative twists here and there to the themes as well. The one he used at WM15 was, as far as I'm aware, a one-off version of the Ministry theme which is similar to the normal one but also has some subtle differences. You don't get that kind detail applied to the modern day.

I hadn't considered American Males, haha, I might have to try that one - and the Steiner Brothers theme too. I was going to cancel my Suno account as the month was up, but then they sucked me back in by offering another month for $5. Figured I might as well at that price.

WWE not using Sting's WCW crow theme was ridiculous. I mean, even if you don't want to use the original, then do a cover of it. At the very least utilise the general melody. You have the rights to the music so there's no reason not to. They even used a very cool orchestral version in the fucking video game adverts! The "theme" they gave him was awful. Even TNA did a better job. All just so Vince didn't have to acknowledge his WCW legacy. I don't have much love for Triple H as a booker, but I guarantee if he had been in charge back then, Sting's WCW crow theme would have been used. That's the kind of thing Triple H does "get", even if other aspects of his showrunning leave a lot to be desired.
 
OK, I didn't realise WWE had actually officially released the WM15 Undertaker theme.

 
Speaking of Suno, I was about to sign up for premium but I figured I might want to test out the free tier again first. It appears uploading stuff is hit or miss. I got hit with copyright notices on about half the stuff I tried to "cover." Is there a way around any of that? I tried uploading some pretty obscure stuff too, and it still got blocked. None of the wrestling themes did though. I read that it scans lyrics, though I don't know if that's accurate.
 
Is the free tier using the v3.5 model? If so then honestly it's way behind v5 - I remember at the time getting some OK stuff out of v3.5, but honestly even v4 is a massive upgrade and v4.5 and v5 are way better. v3.5 does not do justice to what Suno can do nowadays.

As far as uploading copyrighted stuff, yeah it is very random. I was able to upload most of Clayman, for example, but OFTW was blocked. Most of Battles was blocked but I could upload Siren Charms stuff... so honestly I have no idea what the mechanism is. I was able to upload the theme song to "The Bill" (classic 80s/90s British drama), but the Quantum Leap theme was a no go.

There is a way around it - basically just slightly speed up or slow down the song in something like Audacity. You can readjust the speed in Suno if needed, but if it's only a very minor correction it may not matter much if you're doing a cover.

In terms of lyrics, it doesn't scan for them when uploaded, but if you write the lyrics as part of the cover it will sometimes strike them out - so yeah, at the point of creating the cover it does recognise some lyrics as copyrighted. Again, very random though. I uploaded the Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers theme and whilst it let me upload the song, somehow the lyrics were copyrighted, lol. There's a very easy way around that, though - just amend the spelling. Change "like" to "lyke" or "hey" to "hay" and presto, you're all good. Not exactly a robust system.

All worth it to get sick metal covers of the likes of

Captain Planet (ngl this is actually pretty awesome, lmao)



Quantum Leap



The Bill



Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers



Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors




Sonic 2 Ending



Just proof that metal makes pretty much anything awesome :tickled:
 
Something else I find quite cool is that if you give it a snippet of a melody, it can use that melody and wrap a song around it. As an example, I've always liked the opening theme to Neutopia, which is a somewhat obscure old RPG for the TurboGrafx16:



I basically took the audio from that and used the 'cover' option and then wrote a bunch of verses, chorus, etc, and it created an entire power metal song which utilises that theme in the opening, as part of the instrumental some way through the song and in the ending section:



So that's another interesting way to utilise the cover feature to create something different. Scarily I've had this one and a bunch of other PM-style songs created in Suno on repeat for a couple of weeks now. I'm not into the idea of monetising stuff like this, or even really releasing it publicly on streaming platforms, but for personal use it's quite nice. It definitely knows how to create vocal hooks and earworm choruses. Probably when it comes to power metal that isn't so difficult though, as the genre isn't exactly known for having a broad range of complex vocal or musical arrangement. Train a model with the classics and it's going to get how to do it pretty fast.
 
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