Licensing Movie Quotes To Use In Songs...

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Anyone know the LEGAL way to do this? What's actually involved in getting an approved license and a rough idea of the cost?

Having trouble finding anything solid on the internet.

THANKS!
 
I hate to say this... actually i don't

Is your song gonna be so popular and well known that movie studios will notice?
 
Why you worry about it??
That is the label bussiness actually, if they want to put it on the cd, they will pay the royalties and whatever, even more if is a major label
 
Hello
As far as I know about sampling regardless it is music or motion picture or any sort of audio or video intellectual creation, I used FairUse for different types of work during my carier as a Producer for McCann Erickson or in my MTV years and that being use of music for illustrating a music promo for a music tv/radio show or movie excerpts for same use but only for movie related shows.

What are you referring to is this "Samples of spoken word - Usually taken from movies, television, or other non-musical media, often used for humorous or atmospheric effect."

Now, from samplinglaw.com
"What about all those songs with samples from movies and TV shows?
Copying someone else's work, even if transmedium, is still infringement. You could get sued for sampling dialogue. However, I could not find one case in any single court of America that dealt with sampling film or TV dialogue in music. That doesn't mean that nobody has ever gotten sued for it. It just means that it never made it into a published court decision. As of now, it's illegal. You may attempt to defend yourself under the Fair Use de minimis use exception (explained in the Fair Use section), but courts have never decided the issue. As Negativland has propounded, "fragmentary", transcontextual use of media should be okay under Fair Use exception. I agree, but there is no legal authority to support it."

But what about that Fair Use term?
Here it is as stated in the US Copyright law: "the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include —

(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors."

or
"How much of someone else's work can I use without getting permission?
Under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports. There are no legal rules permitting the use of a specific number of words, a certain number of musical notes, or percentage of a work. Whether a particular use qualifies as fair use depends on all the circumstances. See FL 102, Fair Use, and Circular 21, Reproductions of Copyrighted Works by Educators and Librarians"

and
"Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in the work.
The safest course is always to get permission from the copyright owner before using copyrighted material. The Copyright Office cannot give this permission.
When it is impracticable to obtain permission, use of copyrighted material should be avoided unless the doctrine of “fair use” would clearly apply to the situation. The Copyright Office can neither determine if a certain use may be considered “fair” nor advise on possible copyright violations. If there is any doubt, it is advisable to consult an attorney."


I hope that helped out somehow. Cheers.
 
Hello
As far as I know about sampling regardless it is music or motion picture or any sort of audio or video intellectual creation, I used FairUse for different types of work during my carier as a Producer for McCann Erickson or in my MTV years and that being use of music for illustrating a music promo for a music tv/radio show or movie excerpts for same use but only for movie related shows.

What are you referring to is this "Samples of spoken word - Usually taken from movies, television, or other non-musical media, often used for humorous or atmospheric effect."

Now, from samplinglaw.com
"What about all those songs with samples from movies and TV shows?
Copying someone else's work, even if transmedium, is still infringement. You could get sued for sampling dialogue. However, I could not find one case in any single court of America that dealt with sampling film or TV dialogue in music. That doesn't mean that nobody has ever gotten sued for it. It just means that it never made it into a published court decision. As of now, it's illegal. You may attempt to defend yourself under the Fair Use de minimis use exception (explained in the Fair Use section), but courts have never decided the issue. As Negativland has propounded, "fragmentary", transcontextual use of media should be okay under Fair Use exception. I agree, but there is no legal authority to support it."

But what about that Fair Use term?
Here it is as stated in the US Copyright law: "the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include —

(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors."

or
"How much of someone else's work can I use without getting permission?
Under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports. There are no legal rules permitting the use of a specific number of words, a certain number of musical notes, or percentage of a work. Whether a particular use qualifies as fair use depends on all the circumstances. See FL 102, Fair Use, and Circular 21, Reproductions of Copyrighted Works by Educators and Librarians"

and
"Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in the work.
The safest course is always to get permission from the copyright owner before using copyrighted material. The Copyright Office cannot give this permission.
When it is impracticable to obtain permission, use of copyrighted material should be avoided unless the doctrine of “fair use” would clearly apply to the situation. The Copyright Office can neither determine if a certain use may be considered “fair” nor advise on possible copyright violations. If there is any doubt, it is advisable to consult an attorney."


I hope that helped out somehow. Cheers.

GREAT ANSWER...thanks man....

And METAL OVERLOAD.... I care because I was curious, and talking to my lawyer runs me a decent amount of cash for "consulting". Thanks for the amazingly constructive answer.
 
Well im curious too about this, and maybe seem like im a dick, but i didn´t wanted to be :)
Is just that i know that is label bussienes or in other cases a band bussiness, because is their decision. so my answer went more in the side of "don´t worry dude, you´ll keep your money in your pocket"
 
Metal Overload has a case though. The truth is that the label should start worry about that matter, legally speaking. But first ask them to obtain copyright for the list of works you may need to sample. Afterwards it is really the time and case for sampling.
 
I normally discourage bands from doing this as much as possible. It's complicated legally, and I've yet to hear a song that was actually improved by a sample. But in general, I think the kind of things you can get away with are quick samples that are more or less unidentifiable. For instance, I think there's an At The Gates song that starts with a gunshot from Resevoir Dogs or something, but I doubt they're paying anyone for that, because it could have come from anywhere, it's one gunshot. On that note, you can also replicate the sample by actually saying the line of dialoge, rather than using the original recording. I think this still violates a copyright on the script, but it doesn't violate the copyright on the recording, so that's one less person you have to pay.
 
I used a couple samples from movies on my band's upcoming CD. I modified them slightly with a variety of effect and added noise/music around them to somewhat obscure where they are from. Not so much to avoid any infringements, but to give them more atmosphere. We discussed the legality of it and I did some research on the fair use doctrine, and at the point my band is at now we decided to leave them on the CD (they intro songs).

If we were to ever move beyond being a local/regional band (and we all know that chances of that), we'd probably have to cut them out or go through proper channels to leave them in if the disc were to be re-pressed or remastered.
 
Hello
As far as I know about sampling regardless it is music or motion picture or any sort of audio or video intellectual creation, I used FairUse for different types of work during my carier as a Producer for McCann Erickson or in my MTV years and that being use of music for illustrating a music promo for a music tv/radio show or movie excerpts for same use but only for movie related shows.

What are you referring to is this "Samples of spoken word - Usually taken from movies, television, or other non-musical media, often used for humorous or atmospheric effect."

Now, from samplinglaw.com
"What about all those songs with samples from movies and TV shows?
Copying someone else's work, even if transmedium, is still infringement. You could get sued for sampling dialogue. However, I could not find one case in any single court of America that dealt with sampling film or TV dialogue in music. That doesn't mean that nobody has ever gotten sued for it. It just means that it never made it into a published court decision. As of now, it's illegal. You may attempt to defend yourself under the Fair Use de minimis use exception (explained in the Fair Use section), but courts have never decided the issue. As Negativland has propounded, "fragmentary", transcontextual use of media should be okay under Fair Use exception. I agree, but there is no legal authority to support it."

But what about that Fair Use term?
Here it is as stated in the US Copyright law: "the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include —

(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors."

or
"How much of someone else's work can I use without getting permission?
Under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports. There are no legal rules permitting the use of a specific number of words, a certain number of musical notes, or percentage of a work. Whether a particular use qualifies as fair use depends on all the circumstances. See FL 102, Fair Use, and Circular 21, Reproductions of Copyrighted Works by Educators and Librarians"

and
"Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in the work.
The safest course is always to get permission from the copyright owner before using copyrighted material. The Copyright Office cannot give this permission.
When it is impracticable to obtain permission, use of copyrighted material should be avoided unless the doctrine of “fair use” would clearly apply to the situation. The Copyright Office can neither determine if a certain use may be considered “fair” nor advise on possible copyright violations. If there is any doubt, it is advisable to consult an attorney."


I hope that helped out somehow. Cheers.
this is a very OLD 3d.. this information is still true? i need to use a small spoken part and to quote in the lyrics a couple of sentence from a TV series.. is it legal?

really tks a lot
 
i see you guys saying all sorts of stuff about this issue... My question is if im just making it for my own personal use it is still illegal right? like i really enjoy listening to movie quotes so if i wanted to have parts of a movie on a CD just to enjoy for road trips, my own personal consumption, i already own the movie too even this is illegal? i know you'll probably say if im not making a ton of money from it then i probably wont be a target... but im under the impression the FBI has technology that sees everything being published etc even if im not uploading it anywhere just making the track i believe puts it out there and makes it visible to those organizations... any comments?