Marijuana and Amarth

Belgar said:
MegaDan said:
Are you looking down on me because I happen to smoke pot? Go fuck yourself.
I promised myself not to post but I have to reply to this one. If you felt targeted by my post then that's not my prob. To answer your question, yes i look down on a lot of people and I look down on people who do drugs in general. The same people who bitch and whine because they have no money,... the same people who make themselves look miserable unless they are high, the same people who give you attitude and act mad and cannot control their outburst of anger because they could not buy their bag of weed or because they didn't get their daily joint, the same people who bug the fuck out of me begging for 20$ because they are broke but yet spend 20$ or more a week on drugs, ... the same people that give me the right to look down on them, worthless piece of human life .... but I am sure you will tell me that you get yr pot for free, smoke it every now and then and blah blah blah All I can tell you is that if it takes pot for you to enjoy music then it is very sad. To sum it up ... yes I look down on you because yr post was laughable at best.

I wasn't going to post on this either, but Belgar just said exactly what I wanted to. I actually used to smoke, but quit around 6 years ago when I started college, because I realized what a waste it was. A lot of my friends never quit, and all their problems with themselves and their friendships revolve around weed, it's fucking pathetic.

Basically, my two cents are this: It's just a fucking plant, who cares if you smoke weed or not? Why is it even an issue? And why get so defensive about it? It kind of reminds me of homosexuals, all that "I'm queer, and I'm proud" shit, who the fuck cares? I don't understand this need to place so much importance on some element of your lifestyle, make sure everyone else knows about it, and then get all defensive when somebody criticizes you.
 
Ähmmmm I meant it kinda serious...Okay, it was written to provoke you but lets see.

You mix up the definition of the term drug and the behaviour of some junkies.
But don't be fooled, it is a difference, really.
A drug is something one needs to exist, which gives a pleasent feeling (or other said "make one feel good")
and which makes addicts mentally or physically. Alc is such an substance too. Look at those alc-wracks who are
screaming for their daily booze and you see what I mean. They need it, they buy it from their low or non-existant
money (the mental addiction) and some people need it to feel good again. So you have the physical part.
Another example:
A man or woman drinking some beer to "get a calm hand", to calm down, or any other form of repetitive/daily consumption.
Now perhaps you think: "You're talking about alc in general". Yes, I do 'cuz beer is an alcoholic substance.
Now you're conquering: "Beer aren't spirits and it doesn't addict or the addiction is minimal".
Yeah, correct, but drugs aren't the same too. Weed is different from LSD and Ecstasy isn't cocaine.
The active substances of these drugs are different from drug to drug, so you have an equal comparison to alcohol.
There is beer, booze, absinthe and enough sub-styles of alc.
Each drug works in different ways and people react different in a small way. With alc it is the same. Some feel good, some feel bad 'cuz they only need 2 beer to see stars, one is chilling, another one gets aggressive...
Sounds like a description of some junkies don't you think?
And it depends which drug one is taking. Some are more dangerous, some are less, some carry one to regions noone entered so far, some are more addictive, some less....Depends and it is not to be generalized because the variations are huge.
The bottom line: Alc can be addictive, but it mustn't (or needn't ??? everytime I screw this one up... pick the one in the sense of could happen).

About getting shot, ruined life etc.:
This are some possible consequences for junkies but look above. Not everyone smoking weed has to end up like this.
There are examples. Just look around and you'll find some of them;):)
Of course with harder drugs it is different, but we had this above already - different substances, different grades
of possible addiction and different reactions.


I don't try to negociate the dangers of drugs, nor do I try to convince you of start tripping, but what I intent
is to have a more critical and more detailed view on the topic because it is a very diverse one and it is more then it seems to be.
And this has nothing to do with Goldies "I'm gay - I'm proud" theory:)
 
I'm gonna chime in here, just for the hell of it. I mostly agree with Belgar, but at the same time I think alcohol is more dangerous than weed. I've seen one of my friends both drunk and stoned (seperately) and she was only punching her boyfriend in the gut when she was drunk. I'm totally against the use of either substance, if it can be used responsibly and in moderation. The problem is (with alcohol at least) the more you have the less resposible you'll be.

Personally I don't partake of either substance, and my reasoning is that (aside from weed being illegal and me being kinda funny about the law) I prefer to retain complete control over my actions at all times. I don't want to get drunk to lose control or anything like that.
 
HAHAHAAH (Asmallchild) well said! also i agree with Belgar!

And yes Megadan you can become addicted to pot. My friends have done it since they were 11, and now they are 22 and still do it everyday. They have tried to stop countless times but they can never give it up. Its very addictive! BUT Im not saying alcohol isn't fucking oath it is! BUT FUCK ME DEAD ITS GREAT! hahaha I don't look down on people who smoke the shit, i don't do it myself but every single person who i know who has smoked and continues smoking i know is a lazy fuck, and never thinks for themselves and leaves everything to the last minute. thats my two cents..


now how do you like them apples?
 
i don't do it myself but every single person who i know who has smoked and continues smoking i know is a lazy fuck, and never thinks for themselves and leaves everything to the last minute. thats my two cents..
Exactly, people who smoke heavily end up getting burnt out. Thats why I say everything is good in moderation. I say smoking pot is ok, but if you start doing it everyday and get to the point where you arent happy unless you're high and you get burnt out, lazy, mentally slow and stupid, and you cant remember what happened 5 minutes ago, then you smoked too much too often. But if you were to keep it in moderation and only smoke occasionally then this kind of stuff wont happen to you as badly. This is because you are really only that way when you are coming down from being high and that feeling, depending on how much you smoked and how strong it was, lasts for a day or two. During that time you might feel a little lazy or not completely mentally sharp, but after a few days it goes away and you are basically back to normal. Now, if you were somone who smoked everyday and often, then you end up in either being high or coming down all the time. And thats why people get burnt out, because they smoke too much and build a dependency and they end up being either stoned all the time, and when they arent stoned they are coming down and thats when they get really lazy and stupid...anyways like I said everything is good in moderation.
 
Golden Hall said:
Basically, my two cents are this: It's just a fucking plant, who cares if you smoke weed or not? Why is it even an issue? And why get so defensive about it? It kind of reminds me of homosexuals, all that "I'm queer, and I'm proud" shit, who the fuck cares? I don't understand this need to place so much importance on some element of your lifestyle, make sure everyone else knows about it, and then get all defensive when somebody criticizes you.


my point exactly.
well said.


about weed: i used to smoke myself, for many many years in high school, but i quit.
nowadays it takes a REALLY special event to make me do it again.
i usually try to stay away from it, for my own reasons.
I do however LOVE alcohol. and yes alcohol is WAAAAY more addictive than weed and more dengeraous.
The way i see it: if you know how to drink, and you know when to stop, then its cool. alcohol is a social thing, as oppose to other things.
same with weed: people who smoke all day every day discuss me.
people who do it once a month with friends - be my guest.
anything you over do= will be a bad thing.
 
dont have to smoke to listen to Amon Amarth :P i hardly ever smoke or drink really so I mostly listen to music just couse i actuelly like it.. and i also never drink to concerts
 
Dead_Lioness said:
people who smoke all day every day discuss me.
people who do it once a month with friends - be my guest.
anything you over do= will be a bad thing.
I discuss you too. I say hey, look at this chick, can you believe she's into fucking death metal? ( sorry for the corny joke...I'm buzzed, so its funny)
but i do agree, those that need to be stoned to enjoy basic things in life have a problem, and a serious one at that.
 
Thrymfal said:
I discuss you too. I say hey, look at this chick, can you believe she's into fucking death metal? ( sorry for the corny joke...I'm buzzed, so its funny)
but i do agree, those that need to be stoned to enjoy basic things in life have a problem, and a serious one at that.
I would say yes i would believe that :P
 
Thrymfal said:
I discuss you too. I say hey, look at this chick, can you believe she's into fucking death metal? ( sorry for the corny joke...I'm buzzed, so its funny)
but i do agree, those that need to be stoned to enjoy basic things in life have a problem, and a serious one at that.


heh.
 
Labandunga said:
Marijuana and all other stuff is for weaks and they ll probably die
i lost a lot of my friends to those stuff
juz do somthin good for yurselfes (those who take those) and quit its juzt a pain in the ass

Your tragic story has convinced me. That's it. No more. Straight edge all the way. Just call me XxXMegaDanXxX.
 
solarfall_ said:
......Patric's hot. ;) haha

AMON AMARTH REIGNS ALWAYS. That made no sense, ah well. ;x
Aw thanks hun. You'll get a free invitation for all my gumbo nights when I move to New Orleans, for sure. Cheers!
 
I don't drink much nor smoke weed much either. Although I have listened to Amon Amarth while drunk and I must say it kicks even more ass! I was in bed listening to Amon Amarth air-drumming when I nailed my hand on the edge of the bunk bed! I woke up the next day to find it swollen and cut. Now I have battle scars!


Off topic: Tranquillian; you have a lot of Iron Maiden cd's: 48! Where the hell did you find them all?